Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-24 Thread AVee
On Tuesday 22 July 2008 05:43, Simon Matthews wrote: So the fact you were OK at drive level 0 should mean are able to use SD card how you like without problems from SD_CLK to GPS any more. Surely the hardware and software 'fixes' can only be seen as a total fix if they make the SN (signal

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-24 Thread Yogiz
Inside my house I generally loose the fix when the SD card is stressed, not sure what will happen outside. But that's only when really hammering the card, incidental usage does not seem to affect the GPS performance in any way. Could you elaborate on how did you exactly hammer the card?

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-23 Thread Simon Matthews
Thanks for that Andy, There are some numbers here: http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h=66a83c97c4545ce4f07e0d90998f906fae49caf2 Could you tell me what exactly you are measuring, radiated power? and under what conditions. How was the noise floor measured. Thanks Simon

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-23 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Thanks for that Andy, | | There are some numbers here: | | http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h=66a83c97c4545ce4f07e0d90998f906fae49caf2 | | | Could you tell me what exactly you are

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | So the fact you were OK at drive level 0 should mean are able to use SD | card how you like without problems from SD_CLK to GPS any more. | | Surely the hardware and software 'fixes' can only be seen as a

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread Mikko Rauhala
On ti, 2008-07-22 at 11:43 +0800, Simon Matthews wrote: Surely the hardware and software 'fixes' can only be seen as a total fix if they make the SN (signal to noise ratio) of the GPS the same as if the SD card is not present. FWIW and IMAO, this definition of a total fix is impractical almost

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread Jay Vaughan
So the fact you were OK at drive level 0 should mean are able to use SD card how you like without problems from SD_CLK to GPS any more. If at all possible, can someone who understands this explain it so we developers can add the hack/patch to our running Freerunners and continue

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread Bastian Feder
Hey Andy, will the patch be spread by opkg too? I did some updates, but the sd_card file still does not appear. Anything I missed? thx in advance Bastian On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 2:11 AM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | So the fact you were OK at drive level 0 should mean are able to use | SD | card how you like without problems from SD_CLK to GPS any more. | | | If at all possible, can someone who understands this explain

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread Jay Vaughan
I will change the default drive strength to 0 today, tomorrow's kernel should just work. The SD Card we ship anyway seems to work fine like that. okay great, i'll keep an eye out for that update tomorrow and test it with my 8gig MicroSD card (kingston), which so far has been working

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hey Andy, | will the patch be spread by opkg too? | I did some updates, but the sd_card file still does not appear. | | Anything I missed? According to the filename, this uImage.bin has the patch in

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread arne anka
According to the filename, this uImage.bin has the patch in http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200807/20080722/uImage-2.6.24+git23+1d04b142ffeaa15129f046751f1366b0f0614f47-r0-om-gta02.bin how did you tell? by looking at the md5sum? btw: why can't these packages not simply have a

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread arne anka
btw: why can't these packages not simply have a date in the name, maybe with a time, too? These signify which git tree/revision is built. The date is in the folder names containing it. doesn't help with opkg -- from looking at the package's name you cannot tell if your kernel is from

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread Simon Matthews
Surely the hardware and software 'fixes' can only be seen as a total fix if they make the SN (signal to noise ratio) of the GPS the same as if the SD card is not present. FWIW and IMAO, this definition of a total fix is impractical almost to the point of uselessness. There will always

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread Cédric Berger
Hi, So you mean the patch allowing to change the drive strength for SD, not the latest patch you committed about 2 hours ago which set default strength to 0 ? On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 14:41, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | According to the

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread Vinc Duran
Hi Andy, Can you do your voodoo so that this will install from opkg upgrade? Thanks, Vinc Duran user On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 6:01 AM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | So the fact you were OK at

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I know it is difficult to quantify this but it would be nice to know | that say the clock current drive decrease by itself improved the SN | ratio by say 6dB, the capacitor mod by itself improved the SN by

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | So you mean the patch allowing to change the drive strength for SD, | not the latest patch you committed about 2 hours ago which set default | strength to 0 ? Yes, the now older patch introduced the /sys

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hi Andy, | Can you do your voodoo so that this will install from opkg upgrade? That's someone else's voodoo, but it is the intention that it'll just turn up in packages after 24hrs or less. - -Andy

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:34:58 +0200, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess you're not a kernel coder... not only is the segment for these definitively zero at start of kernel, but it is an offence against ./scripts/checkpatch.pl to explicitly zero these things. It's strange to have a

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-21 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:11:38 +0200, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a heads-up there is also another relevant patch on stable tonight. ~ It gives another interesting knob to twiddle about GPS performance.

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-21 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:11:38 +0200, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | Just a heads-up there is also another relevant patch on stable tonight. | ~ It gives another interesting knob to twiddle about GPS

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-21 Thread Chris
Andy Green wrote: Just a heads-up there is also another relevant patch on stable tonight. ~ It gives another interesting knob to twiddle about GPS performance. http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h=1d04b142ffeaa15129f046751f1366b0f0614f47 I did some tests with the new settings.

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-21 Thread Scott Derrick
does it say what the two settings actually do? Scott Chris wrote: Andy Green wrote: Just a heads-up there is also another relevant patch on stable tonight. ~ It gives another interesting knob to twiddle about GPS performance.

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-21 Thread Chris
look here: http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h=1d04b142ffeaa15129f046751f1366b0f0614f47 Scott Derrick wrote: does it say what the two settings actually do? Scott ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-21 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | sd_idleclk=1 and sd_drive=0: | I can't see a weakening of the gps-signal. Signal strength seems as good | as with sd_idleclk=0. | I copied some (big) files to and from the card, none were corrupted, all |

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-21 Thread Simon Matthews
So the fact you were OK at drive level 0 should mean are able to use SD card how you like without problems from SD_CLK to GPS any more. Surely the hardware and software 'fixes' can only be seen as a total fix if they make the SN (signal to noise ratio) of the GPS the same as if the SD card is

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-20 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Andy Green wrote: | Thanks for this report, I went and looked and found I didn't take care | of the case where last packet transferred was not a bulk read packet: | that what happens on resume. I added a