Re: Stable Distro Recommendation for Business trip
Am Donnerstag, den 04.09.2008, 12:48 +1000 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How's the core functionality looking? Milestone 2 looked great but I had some real issues doing more than one thing without something locking up are being troublesome. This is 99% the problem of the Zhone UI. I have hardly any resources to push this further -- and even if I could, it would need to be actually designed from scratch rather than hacked together as it is now. I'm afraid we have to wait someone coming up with a solid UI on top of this framework -- at least the lower layers we now can rely on. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stable Distro Recommendation for Business trip
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 04.09.2008, 12:48 +1000 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How's the core functionality looking? Milestone 2 looked great but I had some real issues doing more than one thing without something locking up are being troublesome. This is 99% the problem of the Zhone UI. I have hardly any resources to push this further -- and even if I could, it would need to be actually designed from scratch rather than hacked together as it is now. I'm afraid we have to wait someone coming up with a solid UI on top of this framework -- at least the lower layers we now can rely on. Your faith in the framework at least sounds positive :) ... I guess I'm waiting for the merge then, which I understand is some way off. It's looking like I'll be needing to tri-boot at this stage ... qtopia as phone, om2008 for testing and fso for dev. At least I'll be occupied :) Thanks for the info. Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stable Distro Recommendation for Business trip
Am Dienstag, den 02.09.2008, 22:34 -0400 schrieb Craig B. Allen: Are you using the testing feed or the unstable feed? Unstable is guaranteed to regularly break. Testing should break rarely. Milestones should not break. Testing, installing image/jffs2. Any predictions for timing of milestone 3? Working on it atm. -- expecting a release somewhere between friday-sunday this week. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stable Distro Recommendation for Business trip
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Am Dienstag, den 02.09.2008, 22:34 -0400 schrieb Craig B. Allen: Are you using the testing feed or the unstable feed? Unstable is guaranteed to regularly break. Testing should break rarely. Milestones should not break. Testing, installing image/jffs2. Any predictions for timing of milestone 3? Working on it atm. -- expecting a release somewhere between friday-sunday this week. How's the core functionality looking? Milestone 2 looked great but I had some real issues doing more than one thing without something locking up are being troublesome. Despite the problems, I really like where FSO is going. I've started coding in python for my own projects (not for any particular reason) and when FSO is usable, it may provoke me into contributing. I just need something that works at least as well as om2008, phone-wise. Looking forward to testing milestone 3 regardless. Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stable Distro Recommendation for Business trip
I have just installed qtopia-4.3.3-snapshot-09012242 I expect this one to be pretty stable. Have been using qtopia for a while now and the only major issue for me was not receiving all sms messages. That should have been taken care of with this release. On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Warren Baird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, I've been running OM2008.8 with testing updates for a few weeks now, and I'm finding it generally pretty good - however, it isn't terrifically stable - I've had incoming calls where they couldn't hear me, or where the 'answer call' page doesn't show up until after the caller hangs up. In my day-to-day life I'm usually near a land-line, so these haven't been serious problems. In a few weeks I'm going on a week long business trip, and my cell is going to be my main source of connectivity, so I'm going to need something a lot more stable. I'd love to hear what the community recommends for a distro providing stable connectivity - phone and sms is the highest priority - although GPS capability would be a bonus. The two leading candidates are either FSO or Qtopia. Any opinions on which of these options would work best? My backup position is to put my SIM back in my old Motorola and use it as a phone, and just use my FR as a hand-held computer... Thanks, Warren I'm considering either installing FSO or Qtopia ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stable Distro Recommendation for Business trip
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Warren Baird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, I've been running OM2008.8 with testing updates for a few weeks now, and I'm finding it generally pretty good - however, it isn't terrifically stable - I've had incoming calls where they couldn't hear me, or where the 'answer call' page doesn't show up until after the caller hangs up. In my day-to-day life I'm usually near a land-line, so these haven't been serious problems. In a few weeks I'm going on a week long business trip, and my cell is going to be my main source of connectivity, so I'm going to need something a lot more stable. I'd love to hear what the community recommends for a distro providing stable connectivity - phone and sms is the highest priority - although GPS capability would be a bonus. The two leading candidates are either FSO or Qtopia. Any opinions on which of these options would work best? My backup position is to put my SIM back in my old Motorola and use it as a phone, and just use my FR as a hand-held computer... Thanks, Warren I'm considering either installing FSO or Qtopia Hey Warren, it seems you are speaking for me word-for-word! Along with business trip and Motorola. I don't know if they already do it, but IMHO whenever a call comes in, the processes associated with the call should be given the highest priority and non-essential processes should be reniced temporarily to the background. I would love to show off my FR on my business trip to the UK tomorrow, but I can't take the risk: I have to be available all the time. So I have the map for London installed, and will use only the GPS. By the way, this page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions says Qtopia does not have GPS. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stable Distro Recommendation for Business trip
On Tuesday 02 September 2008 17:14:59 Nishit Dave wrote: By the way, this page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions says Qtopia does not have GPS. During Akademy a GSoC student presented OpenCityMap. It's a Qtopia GPS application with Open Street Map integration. It is available for download at qtopia.net but there is no Neo package yet. You will need to compile it o your own. Since it is developed on GreenPhone I'm not even sure if it runs on Neos. But if not I'm sure it won't take long until it does. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stable Distro Recommendation for Business trip
In my non-exhaustive testing of FSO, I have found that daily builds generally have significant issues, so unless you are installing a FSO milestone release, then I would not recommend FSO. I think FSO milestone 3 should be appearing soon, so do check it out before you make your final decision. -- Craig Allen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stable Distro Recommendation for Business trip
Craig B. Allen wrote: In my non-exhaustive testing of FSO, I have found that daily builds generally have significant issues, so unless you are installing a FSO milestone release, then I would not recommend FSO. Are you using the testing feed or the unstable feed? Unstable is guaranteed to regularly break. Testing should break rarely. Milestones should not break. -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stable Distro Recommendation for Business trip
Are you using the testing feed or the unstable feed? Unstable is guaranteed to regularly break. Testing should break rarely. Milestones should not break. Testing, installing image/jffs2. Any predictions for timing of milestone 3? -- Craig Allen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
