Re: The GTAs
2008/7/25 Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes. There will be a new 2.5G GSM module (2.5G = GSM+EDGE). This is commonly mistaken, but: 2.5G = GSM with GPRS 2.75G = GSM with EDGE (=EGPRS) See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2.5G and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_Data_Rates_for_GSM_Evolution -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The GTAs
la, 2008-07-26 kello 14:53 +0300, Timo Jyrinki kirjoitti: 2.5G = GSM with GPRS 2.75G = GSM with EDGE (=EGPRS) Yeah, but FWIW, the whole G notation especially for fractions should be taken out and shot ;] -- Mikko Rauhala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - URL:http://www.iki.fi/mjr/ Transhumanist - WTA member - URL:http://www.transhumanism.org/ Singularitarian - SIAI supporter - URL:http://www.singinst.org/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The GTAs
On Saturday 26 July 2008 14:03:08 Mikko Rauhala wrote: la, 2008-07-26 kello 14:53 +0300, Timo Jyrinki kirjoitti: 2.5G = GSM with GPRS 2.75G = GSM with EDGE (=EGPRS) Yeah, but FWIW, the whole G notation especially for fractions should be taken out and shot ;] it serves the same for marketing as megapixels or horsepower. its a simple number that a customer can look at, compare and figure that higher must be better... so, who is up for firebombing some marketing deps? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The GTAs
2008/7/25 Corey Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ok. Now that the FreeRunner is out, I'd like to discuss the GTA03 and 04. I've been listening to this list for quite some time, and have jotted down a few things about the upcoming models. Please make sure I have all of this correct. And if its correct, is it all on the Wiki? I can't find mention. thank you. ^-^ GTA03 Removed Glamo 3.5mm audio jack(maybe with some of Joerg's Ideas about stereo line-in) based on existing 2442 arm v4 samsung soc camera different case design than 1973/freerunner vga screen different battery different GSM modem. (I think 2G/EGDE) USB2.0-OTG GTA04 USB2.0 will be here at the earliest different GSM chip than FreeRunner I heard something about the samsung 6400 soc. more powerful 2d acceleration than Glamo. 3D? oh, and GTA03 != Dash Express, right? a little confusion on that... thanks again ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openmoko GTA04 will likely have 3G support as well. Is that correct? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The GTAs
Am So 27. Juli 2008 schrieb Marko Knöbl: according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openmoko GTA04 will likely have 3G support as well. Is that correct? nope /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The GTAs
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am So 27. Juli 2008 schrieb Marko Knöbl: according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openmoko GTA04 will likely have 3G support as well. Is that correct? nope /j Is no 3g motived by hardware limitations , licensing problems, or a decision from the silent and mysterious design department ? RANT I'm not a developer ATM machine, ie, I won't keep buying these devices and developing on them if they never will have competetive hardware. I Already bought the Freerunner thinking the hardware on a future device will someday catch up to the current proprietary market. Now I realized that is not going to happen. I can't figure out the evolution, not revolution purpose of the GT03 , and now that GT04 won't have 3G , it makes me wonder who are going to buy these things. My pockets and patience are not endless. /RANT - R ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The GTAs
Is no 3g motived by hardware limitations , licensing problems, or a decision from the silent and mysterious design department ? this has been discussed extensively only a few weeks ago. please, do us all a favour and check the archives before bringing up questions that are apparently obvious. the more obvious a question is the more likely has it already been answered. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The GTAs
Am So 27. Juli 2008 schrieb robert lazarski: On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am So 27. Juli 2008 schrieb Marko Knöbl: according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openmoko GTA04 will likely have 3G support as well. Is that correct? nope /j Is no 3g motived by hardware limitations , licensing problems, or a decision from the silent and mysterious design department ? RANT I'm not a developer ATM machine, ie, I won't keep buying these devices and developing on them if they never will have competetive hardware. I Already bought the Freerunner thinking the hardware on a future device will someday catch up to the current proprietary market. Now I realized that is not going to happen. I can't figure out the evolution, not revolution purpose of the GT03 , and now that GT04 won't have 3G , it makes me wonder who are going to buy these things. My pockets and patience are not endless. /RANT Sorry my fault. GTA04 is completely unclear yet. I read GTA03, where in fact you asked for 04. Nevermind. /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The GTAs
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am So 27. Juli 2008 schrieb robert lazarski: On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am So 27. Juli 2008 schrieb Marko Knöbl: according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openmoko GTA04 will likely have 3G support as well. Is that correct? nope /j Sorry my fault. GTA04 is completely unclear yet. I read GTA03, where in fact you asked for 04. Nevermind. /j Ah, thanks for claryfying. . - R ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The GTAs
I can not promise I am correct, but I think this is what have been told on ml's. On 2008-07-25, Corey Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok. Now that the FreeRunner is out, I'd like to discuss the GTA03 and 04. I've been listening to this list for quite some time, and have jotted down a few things about the upcoming models. Please make sure I have all of this correct. And if its correct, is it all on the Wiki? I can't find mention. thank you. ^-^ It is not on the wiki because things may still change. GTA03 Removed Glamo 3.5mm audio jack(maybe with some of Joerg's Ideas about stereo line-in) based on existing 2442 arm v4 samsung soc camera different case design than 1973/freerunner vga screen different battery different GSM modem. (I think 2G/EGDE) Yes. There will be a new 2.5G GSM module (2.5G = GSM+EDGE). Maybe this will solve the issues with newer sim cards. USB2.0-OTG Yes. OM pays a lot for this. GTA04 USB2.0 will be here at the earliest different GSM chip than FreeRunner and maybe a different PMU:) I heard something about the samsung 6400 soc. more powerful 2d acceleration than Glamo. 3D? I am not sure about the 2D/3D. I think it is just some talk - lets wait and see. It will prob. take a few years until it gets available, and then hopefully with something newer than 2.5G networks. Maybe different shape on the device. GTA04 will be a totally redesigned and improved GTA. oh, and GTA03 != Dash Express, right? a little confusion on that... thanks again GTA03 != Dash Express ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The GTAs
Am Sa 26. Juli 2008 schrieb Flemming Richter Mikkelsen: USB2.0-OTG Yes. OM pays a lot for this. NOPE! GTA04 USB2.0 will be here at the earliest look here! /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The GTAs
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please make sure I have all of this correct. And if its correct, is it all on the Wiki? I can't find mention. thank you. ^-^ It is not on the wiki because things may still change. Isn't that part of the idea behind the wiki? Things of course do change, and should be updated accordingly. I don't see that as being a reason why this information couldn't be put there. Just put a disclaimer that things may change and/or be out of date. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
