hehehe, it's good to see OM people having a sense of humour as well! :)
Steve Mosher wrote:
they don't already?
please issue a ticket. we'll fix the bug.
George Brooke wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:01:47 +1100
Dale Maggee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tig wrote:
Ok I will
Warren Baird wrote:
OM2008.9 and FSO walk into a bar. How are you? How are you? asks FSO.
Buzzz says OM2008.9
LOL!
(for once, usage of that horrible acronym is actually appropriate - I
really did laugh out loud!)
this is my new splash screen... :D
moko_bar.gz
Description: GNU
Maybe these should appear on the splash screen of the Neos
solar.george
Brilliant!
1. Save either attachment somewhere
2. Use NeoTool or 'dfu-util -a splash -R -D filename' to flash the new
splash to your neo
3. power down then turn on your neo
4. Laugh.
:D
-Dale
moko_brick.gz
On 18 Nov 2008, at 13:22, Nicola Mfb wrote:
...
Yes! When someone asks me if it's a good idea to give a try to
gentoo (my preferred distro) I point them to:
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Gentoo
:)
From TFA:
Old-school Linux users were desperate to find a new way to
On 18 Nov 2008, at 13:01, Dale Maggee wrote:
...
Q: What's the difference between an iphone and a freerunner?
A: One works but takes away your freedom, the other is free but needs
your work
3 3 3
Stroller.
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On 19 Nov 2008, at 08:46, Dale Maggee wrote:
Q: What's the difference between a brick and a freerunner?
A: A brick isn't designed to make phone calls.
Maybe these should appear on the splash screen of the Neos
Brilliant!
1. Save either attachment somewhere
2. Use NeoTool or 'dfu-util -a
they don't already?
please issue a ticket. we'll fix the bug.
George Brooke wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:01:47 +1100
Dale Maggee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tig wrote:
Ok I will bite :)
Q: Why did OM cross the road?
A: To get to another toolkit :)
Q: How many OM devs does it take to
OM2008.9 and FSO walk into a bar. How are you? How are you? asks FSO.
Buzzz says OM2008.9
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 8:01 AM, Dale Maggee [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Tig wrote:
Ok I will bite :)
Q: Why did OM cross the road?
A: To get to another toolkit :)
Tig wrote:
Ok I will bite :)
Q: Why did OM cross the road?
A: To get to another toolkit :)
Q: How many OM devs does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: Well first we need to abandon the old lightbulb holder because at a later
date we may not be able to plug a floodlight in, bring in a
2008/11/14 Minh Ha Duong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I hope the software stack becomes less of a joke in time for GTA03
or it'll be hard to get much new customers...
Actually I have never read any jokes about the software stack. But it is a
sign of good mental health when a community is able to
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:01:47 +1100
Dale Maggee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tig wrote:
Ok I will bite :)
Q: Why did OM cross the road?
A: To get to another toolkit :)
Q: How many OM devs does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: Well first we need to abandon the old lightbulb holder
Minh Ha Duong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I hope the software stack becomes less of a joke in time for GTA03
or it'll be hard to get much new customers...
Actually I have never read any jokes about the software stack. But it is a
sign of good mental health when a community is able to
Tim Schmidt wrote:
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:11 AM, Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Having said that, if someone wants to seriously develop for the glamo,
please get in touch with me and we will find a legally correct way to
extend the smedia documentation to you.
In fact we have
I just wanted to update. I am trying to locate all the information I can
relating to the Glamo, including projects using the hardware acceleration
features of it on this wiki page [1]. I would like to use that page as a
starting point to help organize an effort to get something underway with
Tim Schmidt wrote:
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:11 AM, Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Having said that, if someone wants to seriously develop for the glamo,
please get in touch with me and we will find a legally correct way to
extend the smedia documentation to you.
In fact we have
Tim Schmidt wrote:
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:11 AM, Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am not a skilled developer, but I would be more than happy to
organize, and participate in a traditional clean room
re-implementation of the documentation.
As a GTA02 owner, as a founding member
Tim Schmidt wrote:
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:11 AM, Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Having said that, if someone wants to seriously develop for the glamo,
please get in touch with me and we will find a legally correct way to
extend the smedia documentation to you.
In fact we have
On Sat, 2008-11-15 at 07:20 +, Stroller wrote:
Having said that, I thought one of your engineers was already working
on Glamo or XGlamo or whatever is required to use the chip's hardware
acceleration. It would be good for Openmoko to reaffirm its commitment
to that, to offer goals
2008/11/14 Tim Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am not a skilled developer, but I would be more than happy to
organize, and participate in a traditional clean room
re-implementation of the documentation.
As a GTA02 owner, as a founding member of the Open Graphics Project,
as a Director of the
Great to hear that!
Over the next few weeks I shall be working on Xglamo to bring it into
the Xorg family of drivers. If people come up with interesting patches
while I am working on this I can certainly give them a tryout.
Graeme (XorA)
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On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 5:36 AM, Timo Jyrinki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah, Wolfgang, hopefully you didn't miss Tim's post, sounds promising
:) As do the other offers of help.
I'd just really like to get documentation out into the wild. I
understand that performance is unlikely to ever be
On Friday 14 November 2008 15:46:34 Yorick Moko wrote:
somebody (leinir) on irc suggested you could maybe hire
http://www.tungstengraphics.com (leinir Tungsten Graphics being the
people behind gallium3d of course)
although I don't know how much openmoko is willing to spend on it
Unless we
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 2:43 PM, David Pottage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unless we want a closed source driver, I don't think that would work.
Reading between the lines on the Tungsten Graphics website. it looks to me
that they have one core graphics driver, that they keep porting to whatever
Michele Renda wrote, on 2008-11-14 23:59:
PS. Some hints on future OpenGL chips can arrive inside the next GTAXX
versions? :)
Try http://www.opengraphics.org/ - once the FGPA version is fully
debugged, an ASIC version could be produced.
Arthur.
Jacob,
Glamo is not a forbidden topic.
Openmoko actually has learnt a lot from this. First we have learnt to
not trust high-level promises as much as before.
In fact I would go as far as saying that going forward, we will not
trust any promises about 'we will open this up later' anymore.
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 06:11:30PM +0800, Wolfgang Spraul wrote:
built with the Freerunner is awesome. Please continue to buy
Freerunners and to develop for it, same is happening internally. The
next phones will build on top of the free platform we have built
together, the technology
I might have to skip GTA03 since I have just spent a huge 300 Euros for
a GTA02 :)
I hope the software stack becomes less of a joke in time for GTA03 or it'll
be hard to get much new customers...
Well said.
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On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:11 AM, Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Openmoko actually has learnt a lot from this. First we have learnt to
not trust high-level promises as much as before.
In fact I would go as far as saying that going forward, we will not
trust any promises about 'we will
Rui Nishit,
I might have to skip GTA03 since I have just spent a huge 300 Euros
for
a GTA02 :)
I hope the software stack becomes less of a joke in time for GTA03
or it'll
be hard to get much new customers...
Wow, this is actually really complicated, let me tell you a bit how I
see
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Thank you for your answer.
I bought GTA02 and I am really happy of this buy. I hope to buy the next major
revision!
I am not still using it as my daily phone (to say the true I hate phones), but
I using my free time to develop it.
About the lesson,
Thank you for the response Wolfgang.
The current FreeRunner is already starting to show its potential as a
kick-ass phone and defiantly has me excited to see what future version can
offer, but it is sad to see the user interface will never be able to support
smooth animations or run any
I hope the software stack becomes less of a joke in time for GTA03
or it'll be hard to get much new customers...
Actually I have never read any jokes about the software stack. But it is a
sign of good mental health when a community is able to make fun of itself.
Besides, where else would
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Minh Ha Duong [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
I hope the software stack becomes less of a joke in time for GTA03
or it'll be hard to get much new customers...
Actually I have never read any jokes about the software stack. But it is a
sign of good mental health
Dear Wolfgang,
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 09:11:40PM +0800, Wolfgang Spraul wrote:
You say the current software is a 'joke', which is painful for me but
I accept it. From where we all want to be it's a joke, yes. Agreed.
So that also answers your question when GTA03 will come out. It's a
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 02:36:27PM +0100, Minh Ha Duong wrote:
I hope the software stack becomes less of a joke in time for GTA03
or it'll be hard to get much new customers...
Actually I have never read any jokes about the software stack. But it is a
sign of good mental health when a
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jacob,
Glamo is not a forbidden topic.
Having said that, if someone wants to seriously develop for the glamo,
please get in touch with me and we will find a legally correct way to
extend the smedia documentation to
somebody (leinir) on irc suggested you could maybe hire
http://www.tungstengraphics.com (leinir Tungsten Graphics being the
people behind gallium3d of course)
although I don't know how much openmoko is willing to spend on it
y
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Le vendredi 14 novembre 2008, Yorick Moko a écrit :
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Jacob,
Glamo is not a forbidden topic.
Having said that, if someone wants to seriously develop for the glamo,
please get in touch with me and we will find a
I run Mesa on my FR without any problem, aside from the possible
slowness of it, but then again, its pretty similar in performance to any
400 mhz box I have used in the past. I can only presume this complaint
laments the lack of hardware acceleration for the OpenGL calls. How
complex can that be
2008/11/14 Tim Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:11 AM, Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Openmoko actually has learnt a lot from this. First we have learnt to
not trust high-level promises as much as before.
In fact I would go as far as saying that going forward,
After really digging the archives I came across one thread [1] that has a
lot of good information on the limits of the Glamo and what has been tried
already to get more usefulness out of it. I think it would be good to have
some of the information from that thread on the wiki. Any suggestions on
Jacob Peterson wrote:
After really digging the archives I came across one thread [1] that has
a lot of good information on the limits of the Glamo and what has been
tried already to get more usefulness out of it. I think it would be
good to have some of the information from that thread on the
Tim Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As a GTA02 owner, as a founding member of the Open Graphics Project,
as a Director of the Open Hardware Foundation, I believe I have the
resources to accomplish such a task.
I'd love to try.
Can we make it happen?
I would love to contribute in some
Wolfgang Spraul wrote:
Openmoko actually has learnt a lot from this. First we have learnt to
not trust high-level promises as much as before.
In fact I would go as far as saying that going forward, we will not
trust any promises about 'we will open this up later' anymore.
Either it's open
Wolfgang Spraul wrote:
Having said that, if someone wants to seriously develop for the glamo,
please get in touch with me and we will find a legally correct way to
extend the smedia documentation to you.
In fact we have done that in a few cases before already, but I'm not
sure how much
On 14 Nov 2008, at 16:10, Minh Ha Duong wrote:
Le vendredi 14 novembre 2008, Yorick Moko a écrit :
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Jacob,
Glamo is not a forbidden topic.
Having said that, if someone wants to seriously develop for the
glamo,
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