Re: The future of the Neo Freerunner
On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 12:57:30 +0200 Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote: 2009/4/3 Marcel tan...@googlemail.com [...] 2. These devs don't belong to Openmoko Inc. anymore, but they still contribute heavily to one or another aspect of the OM world. Afaik. And what's about Openmoko new software stack roadmap? If it will not fund FSO, those developers may decide to stay a bit relaxed. Let me assure you I'm not even close to anything resembling relaxed. :-) Not coding much at the moment, but trying to disprove the myths that seem to surround GTA02 like a foul stench. If you look at where the FSO team came from it should be clear that FSO will continue. I personally couldn't really imaging going back from my Freerunner to a non-open phone. Crappy as it may be in terms of usability I can do stuff on it that just wont happen anywhere else. Regards, Daniel Willmann signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The future of the Neo Freerunner
2009/4/8 Daniel Willmann dan...@totalueberwachung.de On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 12:57:30 +0200 Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote: [...] And what's about Openmoko new software stack roadmap? If it will not fund FSO, those developers may decide to stay a bit relaxed. Let me assure you I'm not even close to anything resembling relaxed. :-) I'm very happy in reading this! FSO actually is the only real thingh that lets survive the idea of open phones. With a rock solid framework taking care of all the underlying dirty work, writing some GUI interfaces is only a matter of time and may be done by community. About hardware, to have an usable phone we need a well supported hardware with a good kernel and good chip's firmwares (e.g. gsm). In my experience was that the problem with the freerunner, in one year I spent huge time on the device and encountered a lot of problems, sd card partition table corruption, problems with suspend/resume, WSOD, NSOD, glamo mci spare problems, gsm hopping, my vodafone card was not recognized before the latest gsm firmware updates, and many others that did not let me use the freerunner as a daily phone. That's the reason I really HOPE that OM will continue at least in kernel and low-level firmware developing, after all a stable Freerunner may be not so bad, and may be selled for a long time, funding OM and growing the community, and this is very important! Thanks for your effort! Best Regards Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The future of the Neo Freerunner
Nicola Mfb wrote: my vodafone card was not recognized before the latest gsm firmware updates, and many others that did not let me use the freerunner as a daily phone. oh interresting how can you update the gsm firmware? is this a special process or just a package? Thanks Juergen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The future of the Neo Freerunner
2009/4/8 Juergen Schinker ba1...@homie.homelinux.net Nicola Mfb wrote: my vodafone card was not recognized before the latest gsm firmware updates, and many others that did not let me use the freerunner as a daily phone. oh interresting how can you update the gsm firmware? is this a special process or just a package? you may read this: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The future of the Neo Freerunner
read my posts. I should have something official done this weekend. I thought id get it done tonight, but lots of other things to do. So, read my posts here. and ask me for clrification. Thomas Bumberger wrote: As Openmoko sacked/was left by 50% of its developers and halted the development of GTA03 i want to know your opinion on the future of the Neo. As it seems Openmoko stopped funding FSO too. Are there any official statements beside the announcement yesterday at OpenExpo. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The future of the Neo Freerunner
2009/4/3 Marcel tan...@googlemail.com [...] 2. These devs don't belong to Openmoko Inc. anymore, but they still contribute heavily to one or another aspect of the OM world. Afaik. And what's about Openmoko new software stack roadmap? If it will not fund FSO, those developers may decide to stay a bit relaxed. Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The future of the Neo Freerunner
Am Friday 03 April 2009 19:39:19 schrieb Thomas Bumberger: As Openmoko sacked/was left by 50% of its developers and halted the development of GTA03 i want to know your opinion on the future of the Neo. As it seems Openmoko stopped funding FSO too. Are there any official statements beside the announcement yesterday at OpenExpo. 1. They iced 03 in favor of another project which is yet to be announced, so work is still going on. 2. These devs don't belong to Openmoko Inc. anymore, but they still contribute heavily to one or another aspect of the OM world. Afaik. -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The future of the Neo Freerunner
On Fri Apr 03, 2009 at 07:39:19PM +0200, Thomas Bumberger wrote: As Openmoko sacked/was left by 50% of its developers and halted the development of GTA03 i want to know your opinion on the future of the Neo. As it seems Openmoko stopped funding FSO too. hello, are there any 3G phones which run debian and spport all the hardware yet? Are there any official statements beside the announcement yesterday at OpenExpo. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The future of the Neo Freerunner
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:33:10 -0400 carmen _...@whats-your.name said: On Fri Apr 03, 2009 at 07:39:19PM +0200, Thomas Bumberger wrote: As Openmoko sacked/was left by 50% of its developers and halted the development of GTA03 i want to know your opinion on the future of the Neo. As it seems Openmoko stopped funding FSO too. hello, are there any 3G phones which run debian and spport all the hardware yet? no. (if there are.. it's news to me and i'd like to know). -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
