Re: What to do when apps keep crashing?

2009-03-04 Thread Helge Hafting
Adam Jimerson wrote:

 None of my contacts are on my SIM card and it would take forever to move 
 all of them onto it, the link the the script quoted is a dead link does 
 anyone have a correct link they can point me to or a suggested app that 
 can read Vcards so  I can import my contacts from FDOM, copied onto my 
 MicroSD card, into SHR?
 
I know no such way. This part is currently missing in SHR, so maybe it 
is not a good distro for you yet.

 As for the question which one of the files on this server 
 http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/ is the Kernel 
 needed there seems to be two different ones.

These two are actually the same. With time there may be several kernels
in that directory, with different versions.
uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin is always a copy of the latest among them, so 
that people who don't follow version numbers and kernel development 
simply can grab the latest kernel, whatever it might be.

Helge Hafting

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Re: What to do when apps keep crashing?

2009-03-04 Thread Adam Jimerson
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net wrote:

 Adam Jimerson wrote:
  I tried 2008.12 and my SIM card would not register so I can't use that.

 Try SHR. My SIM card which won't work with 2009.12 and 2008.12
 annoyingly works fine with it.

 I flashed SHR on my phone and at first it took it a while to register my
SIM but now everything is working fine, it took me a while to get use to the
change in ringers though XP
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Re: What to do when apps keep crashing?

2009-03-04 Thread Adam Jimerson
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:12 AM, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote:

 Adam Jimerson wrote:

  None of my contacts are on my SIM card and it would take forever to move
  all of them onto it, the link the the script quoted is a dead link does
  anyone have a correct link they can point me to or a suggested app that
  can read Vcards so  I can import my contacts from FDOM, copied onto my
  MicroSD card, into SHR?
 
 I know no such way. This part is currently missing in SHR, so maybe it
 is not a good distro for you yet.


Well I went ahead and gave it a try, if I don't like it I can easily flash
something else on it, but it seems that once you have SHR running contacts
are able to be added by hand but I don't know if they are saved to the SIM
card or to the phone.



  As for the question which one of the files on this server
  http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/ is the Kernel
  needed there seems to be two different ones.

 These two are actually the same. With time there may be several kernels
 in that directory, with different versions.
 uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin is always a copy of the latest among them, so
 that people who don't follow version numbers and kernel development
 simply can grab the latest kernel, whatever it might be.

 I figured something like that so I went ahead and grabbed the
uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin and used that.
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Re: What to do when apps keep crashing?

2009-03-04 Thread Helge Hafting
Adam Jimerson wrote:

 
 Well I went ahead and gave it a try, if I don't like it I can easily 
 flash something else on it, but it seems that once you have SHR running 
 contacts are able to be added by hand but I don't know if they are saved 
 to the SIM card or to the phone.

Sure, you can add contacts manually, and they will be saved to the SIM.

Helge Hafting


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Re: What to do when apps keep crashing?

2009-03-03 Thread Helge Hafting
Adam Jimerson wrote:
 Lately my freerunner seems to have gotten more unstable, some of the 
 things that it is doing include:
 1. Not wanting to fully connect during phone calls, it says it is 
 connected but I can't hear them and they can't hear me (this may be a 
 problem with my carrier, T-Moble sucks around here)
 2. Sound not working, I had my phone in vibrate and ring which use to 
 work but now it only vibrates

These two seems to be the same thing. Something is wrong with sound,
so you get no ringtone and no sound when connected.


 3. The config app crashes when I try and launch it, so I can't change 
 any of its setting like turn on or off services, can't connect to wifi, 
 etc...
In an emergency, log in with ssh. Most configuration can be changed
in the /etc directory.

One thing to check when everything breaks is if the filesystem is
full. It may fill up over time because of logfiles.
Try the command df.


 4. GPS doesn't fully work, in the sets program that comes with FDOM it 
 takes a couple of minutes before it starts finding satelites but in 
 TangoGPS it never can find any even after 10+ minutes.
 5. Installing/upgrading a program with opkg breaks it
 
 I have expectecd problems like these when I bought my freerunner but I 
 can't find a fix for any of them, flashing my kernel and distro only 
 delays the problem, it always comes back if not there after flashing it.

Time for another distribution maybe - FDOM is kind of old?
Tried the new SHR testing?

Helge Hafting

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Re: What to do when apps keep crashing?

2009-03-03 Thread Tim Dobson
Adam Jimerson wrote:

 4. GPS doesn't fully work, in the sets program that comes with FDOM it 
 takes a couple of minutes before it starts finding satelites but in 
 TangoGPS it never can find any even after 10+ minutes.
 5. Installing/upgrading a program with opkg breaks it

I don't think FDOM is recommended really anymore... at least not the 
stable version.

For a FDOM like experience on 2008.12 install the 2008.12 image then run 
Kustomizer http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kustomizer

There are some things that won't be better, but in some things there is 
a marked difference. one thing to realise is that the group of programs 
installed may well differ.

let us know how you get on,

Tim

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Re: What to do when apps keep crashing?

2009-03-03 Thread Adam Jimerson
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.nowrote:

 Adam Jimerson wrote:
  Lately my freerunner seems to have gotten more unstable, some of the
  things that it is doing include:
  1. Not wanting to fully connect during phone calls, it says it is
  connected but I can't hear them and they can't hear me (this may be a
  problem with my carrier, T-Moble sucks around here)
  2. Sound not working, I had my phone in vibrate and ring which use to
  work but now it only vibrates

 These two seems to be the same thing. Something is wrong with sound,
 so you get no ringtone and no sound when connected.


I know pulseaudio likes to mess up sound but that is not installed on my FR.





  3. The config app crashes when I try and launch it, so I can't change
  any of its setting like turn on or off services, can't connect to wifi,
  etc...
 In an emergency, log in with ssh. Most configuration can be changed
 in the /etc directory.

 One thing to check when everything breaks is if the filesystem is
 full. It may fill up over time because of logfiles.
 Try the command df.

 While my root filesysem is larger than I would like it, at 65% used it is
 not full.




  4. GPS doesn't fully work, in the sets program that comes with FDOM it
  takes a couple of minutes before it starts finding satelites but in
  TangoGPS it never can find any even after 10+ minutes.
  5. Installing/upgrading a program with opkg breaks it
 
  I have expectecd problems like these when I bought my freerunner but I
  can't find a fix for any of them, flashing my kernel and distro only
  delays the problem, it always comes back if not there after flashing it.

 Time for another distribution maybe - FDOM is kind of old?
 Tried the new SHR testing?


I will give SHR Testing a try



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Re: What to do when apps keep crashing?

2009-03-03 Thread Adam Jimerson




  4. GPS doesn't fully work, in the sets program that comes with FDOM it
  takes a couple of minutes before it starts finding satelites but in
  TangoGPS it never can find any even after 10+ minutes.
  5. Installing/upgrading a program with opkg breaks it
 
  I have expectecd problems like these when I bought my freerunner but I
  can't find a fix for any of them, flashing my kernel and distro only
  delays the problem, it always comes back if not there after flashing it.

 Time for another distribution maybe - FDOM is kind of old?
 Tried the new SHR testing?


 I will give SHR Testing a try


 First off sorry about reposting, but after looking at the SHR wiki page
there is one concern and a question

On the wiki page this is listed under the Known Issues

 Address Book

SHR is not implementing a PIM (Personal Information Manager) yet. Work is in
progress, but to included in SHR testing this has some consequences on daily
use:

   - Only contacts on the SIM card are available.


   - It is not possible to import a Vcard file.
  - It seems to be possible with
thisgopher://gopher.fnordpol.de/9/data/DbusAccessScripts_0.0.0.tar.gzscript
written by
  Zem http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Zem#DBus_Access_Scripts.

None of my contacts are on my SIM card and it would take forever to move all
of them onto it, the link the the script quoted is a dead link does anyone
have a correct link they can point me to or a suggested app that can read
Vcards so  I can import my contacts from FDOM, copied onto my MicroSD card,
into SHR?

As for the question which one of the files on this server
http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/ is the Kernel
needed there seems to be two different ones.
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Re: What to do when apps keep crashing?

2009-03-03 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez

 I don't think FDOM is recommended really anymore... at least not the
 stable version.

 For a FDOM like experience on 2008.12 install the 2008.12 image then run
 Kustomizer http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kustomizer

I Totally agree with Tim, Risto has made a quick and awesome work in
the same spirit FDOM was started. totally recomend Kustomizer  for
0m2008.12 users
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Re: What to do when apps keep crashing?

2009-03-03 Thread Tim Dobson
Adam Jimerson wrote:
 I tried 2008.12 and my SIM card would not register so I can't use that.

Try SHR. My SIM card which won't work with 2009.12 and 2008.12 
annoyingly works fine with it.

Alternatively search the wiki about Sim card issues


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Re: What to do when apps keep crashing?

2009-03-03 Thread Tim Dobson
Adam Jimerson wrote:
  
 
 
   4. GPS doesn't fully work, in the sets program that comes
 with FDOM it
   takes a couple of minutes before it starts finding satelites
 but in
   TangoGPS it never can find any even after 10+ minutes.
   5. Installing/upgrading a program with opkg breaks it
  
   I have expectecd problems like these when I bought my
 freerunner but I
   can't find a fix for any of them, flashing my kernel and
 distro only
   delays the problem, it always comes back if not there after
 flashing it.
 
 Time for another distribution maybe - FDOM is kind of old?
 Tried the new SHR testing?
 
 
 I will give SHR Testing a try
 
 
 First off sorry about reposting, but after looking at the SHR wiki page 
 there is one concern and a question
 
 On the wiki page this is listed under the Known Issues
 
 
   Address Book
 
 SHR is not implementing a PIM (Personal Information Manager) yet. Work 
 is in progress, but to included in SHR testing this has some 
 consequences on daily use:
 
 * Only contacts on the SIM card are available. 
 
 * It is not possible to import a Vcard file.
   o It seems to be possible with this
 
 gopher://gopher.fnordpol.de/9/data/DbusAccessScripts_0.0.0.tar.gz
 script written by Zem
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Zem#DBus_Access_Scripts. 
 
 None of my contacts are on my SIM card and it would take forever to move 
 all of them onto it, the link the the script quoted is a dead link does 
 anyone have a correct link they can point me to or a suggested app that 
 can read Vcards so  I can import my contacts from FDOM, copied onto my 
 MicroSD card, into SHR?

this is unlikely to work for the time being I suspect.

I know it is possible to transfer contacts to a 2008.12 distro with the 
qtopia/x11 stack because I have done it, and with a few thoughts i could 
write a how to but :-/

Tim


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