Re: WikiReader sales and the future of Openmoko

2010-08-22 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
And if it frees up developer resources to doing just hardware and kernel support by not doing a huge effort like OE-based Om2007.2/Om2008/Om2009 on the software distribution, I'm all for it. hmmm. on htcdream, having something half-usable was so hard... for instance: No alsa driver shipped

Re: WikiReader sales and the future of Openmoko

2010-08-20 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
Hi, I have been watching the conversation about Android and its openness, and I think that Timo's answer is the closest. You should also remember that while Android is associated with Google, and certainly they had the greatest say of it, that other companies of the Open Handset Alliance also

Re: WikiReader sales and the future of Openmoko

2010-08-20 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut] and finally Google (one ring to bind them all) the drum-beater. But like a lot of drum-beaters, they could only beat the drumthey were bound by contracts and agreements to do things. Even the mighty Google can not do everything they want to do. Great summary :) [cut] -- Patryk

Re: WikiReader sales and the future of Openmoko

2010-08-20 Thread Petr Vanek
On 20 Aug 2010 10:55:00 +0200 openm...@pulster.de (Christoph Pulster) (CP) wrote: Google can not do everything they want to do. They photograph my home without my permission, anyone can photo your house without your permission. as for google, afaik you can file a request not to be displayed.

Re: WikiReader sales and the future of Openmoko

2010-08-19 Thread Jim Ancona
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 5:58 AM, Christoph Pulster openm...@pulster.de wrote: Please note Android is a Google(TM) product. TM stands for total monopol. Or terrible monster. Google is evil. Android is no free OS. By what definition of free is Android not a free OS? Jim

Re: WikiReader sales and the future of Openmoko

2010-08-19 Thread arne anka
Please note Android is a Google(TM) product. TM stands for total monopol. Or terrible monster. Google is evil. Android is no free OS. By what definition of free is Android not a free OS? by free as in speech. it's not 100% open -- important parts of the os, namely hw drivers, are closed.

Re: WikiReader sales and the future of Openmoko

2010-08-19 Thread pike
Please note Linux is a Torvalds (TM). TM stands for total monopol. Or terrible monster. Torvalds is evil. Linux is no free OS. huh ? ok, troll. please, lets leave him there. dont respond to this mail ! $2c, *-pike ___ Openmoko community

Re: WikiReader sales and the future of Openmoko

2010-08-19 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 19 August 2010, Jim Ancona wrote: On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 5:58 AM, Christoph Pulster openm...@pulster.de wrote: Please note Android is a Google(TM) product. TM stands for total monopol. Or terrible monster. Google is evil. Android is no free OS. By what definition of free is

Re: WikiReader sales and the future of Openmoko

2010-08-19 Thread Jim Ancona
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 5:43 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: Please note Android is a Google(TM) product. TM stands for total monopol. Or terrible monster. Google is evil. Android is no free OS. By what definition of free is Android not a free OS? by free as in speech. it's not

Re: WikiReader sales and the future of Openmoko

2010-08-19 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/8/20 Jim Ancona j...@anconafamily.com: True with respect to most phones, because hardware manufacturers don't release their drivers. Not true with respect to the Freerunner. In any case, Android is exactly as free as Linux is, because you would have exactly the same problem running any

Re: WikiReader sales and the future of Openmoko

2010-08-14 Thread Martix
2010/8/14 Christoph Pulster openm...@pulster.de: PS: I heard on IRC something about next Openmoko phone running Android. I think, it's a good idea. Please note Android is a Google(TM) product. TM stands for total monopol. Or terrible monster. Google is evil. Android is no free OS. I agree.

Re: WikiReader sales and the future of Openmoko Was: When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing

2010-08-13 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 13.08.2010 um 17:08 schrieb Martix: Hi community, I want to share a few news about WikiReader and Openmoko Inc. I am publishing with permission my short interview with Sean Moss-Pultz the CEO of Openmoko Inc.: ___ May I