Re: browsing: enforce layout for mobile devices
0.1.10 is in SHR-U, changing the ua-string works fine for me. opkg upgrade, go go go :D ps, I`m getting emails from the list very late today. -- Adolph J. Vogel BEng(Hons) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: browsing: enforce layout for mobile devices
And I find it very slow when I scroll big pages. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: browsing: enforce layout for mobile devices
In my opinion ewww [1] is the best browser so far, even in this demo stage, it is better than all the others. I hope that someone is working on it, and soon we will have one great browser :) [1] http://www.opkg.org/package_173.html 2009/9/21 Alexander Lehner leh...@edv-buero-lehner.de Hi, there are many web seriveces, that offer a special compressed layout for mobile devices (gmx for example). I think they do this by reading some HTTP header fields like browser-Id or similair. Does anyone have experience with that? Or suggestions which browser to use (I currently use midori, but even midori's UI does not fit into the FR screen). Thanks, Alex. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: browsing: enforce layout for mobile devices
there are many web seriveces, that offer a special compressed layout for mobile devices (gmx for example). I think they do this by reading some HTTP header fields like browser-Id or similair. Does anyone have experience with that? Or suggestions which browser to use (I currently use midori, but even midori's UI does not fit into the FR screen). I believe this topic has been discussed in the recent past. Perhaps the answer to your question is already in the mailarchive (see http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td3506259). Try opening up Midori, go to Edit Preferences Network Identify as Custom And put in: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/1A543a Safari/419.3 This should help. Niels. _ Voeg vrienden toe van LinkedIn Facebook aan je Windows Live http://profile.live.com/connect ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: browsing: enforce layout for mobile devices
On Monday 21 September 2009 09:55:07 Alexander Lehner wrote: Hi, there are many web seriveces, that offer a special compressed layout for mobile devices (gmx for example). I think they do this by reading some HTTP header fields like browser-Id or similair. Does anyone have experience with that? Or suggestions which browser to use (I currently use midori, but even midori's UI does not fit into the FR screen). Thanks, Alex. Webservices do this by identifying the user agent string of the browser. The midori version (0.1.9) I have on my desktop allows you to change this string to something like the iphone one. And works quite well on all the mobile versions of sites I tested. The only one that didnt work is gmail :( Midori in the shr feeds is quite old (0.1.2), and as far as I know does not have this functionality. Perhaps if the shr-devs could update the midori version in the feeds... The other alternative is Arora, a lightweight qt based browser. Which works well on all mobile websites. It is, as far as I know, not in any distro feeds. So someone will need to cross compile it for the freerunner... Regards, Adolph -- Adolph J. Vogel BEng(Hons) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Am Montag, den 21.09.2009, 10:28 +0200 schrieb Adolph J. Vogel: Webservices do this by identifying the user agent string of the browser. The midori version (0.1.9) I have on my desktop allows you to change this string to something like the iphone one. And works quite well on all the mobile versions of sites I tested. The only one that didnt work is gmail :( The Gmail layout always limits itself to about 2/3 of the window's width instead of using the whole screen. Is there anything I could do about it except filing a bug for midori? Or is midori innocent and google does some evil hacks there to look nice on that damn iPhone (that has a smaller resolution - less width on screen)? Last.FM mobile adapts perfectly fine by the way. Midori in the shr feeds is quite old (0.1.2), and as far as I know does not have this functionality. Perhaps if the shr-devs could update the midori version in the feeds... 0.1.10 is in SHR-U, changing the ua-string works fine for me. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: browsing: enforce layout for mobile devices
The Gmail layout always limits itself to about 2/3 of the window's width instead of using the whole screen. Is there anything I could do about it except filing a bug for midori? Or is midori innocent and google does some evil hacks there to look nice on that damn iPhone (that has a smaller resolution - less width on screen)? Last.FM mobile adapts perfectly fine by the way. Have you tried going to m.gmail.com instead of the mail.google.com url? _ Hebben jij en je vrienden leuke foto's van jullie feestje? Maak een groepsalbum en geniet nog extra na. http://www.microsoft.com/belux/nl/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: browsing: enforce layout for mobile devices
Am Montag, den 21.09.2009, 12:32 + schrieb Niels Heyvaert: The Gmail layout always limits itself to about 2/3 of the window's width instead of using the whole screen. Is there anything I could do about it except filing a bug for midori? Or is midori innocent and google does some evil hacks there to look nice on that damn iPhone (that has a smaller resolution - less width on screen)? Last.FM mobile adapts perfectly fine by the way. Have you tried going to m.gmail.com instead of the mail.google.com url? That URL doesn't work with a german IP since someone runs a snail mail service somewhere here that's called Gmail, so they mustn't use the name. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: browsing: enforce layout for mobile devices
Have you tried going to m.gmail.com instead of the mail.google.com url? That URL doesn't work with a german IP since someone runs a snail mail service somewhere here that's called Gmail, so they mustn't use the name. Sounds like a Germany specific problem... Does Google offer another local alternative URL with a deviating domain name to access the Google Gmail on mobile devices? _ Voeg vrienden toe van LinkedIn Facebook aan je Windows Live http://profile.live.com/connect ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: browsing: enforce layout for mobile devices
I believe this topic has been discussed in the recent past. Perhaps the answer to your question is already in the mailarchive (see http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td3506259). Try opening up Midori, go to Edit Preferences Network Identify as Custom And put in: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/1A543a Safari/419.3 You could also try pretending to be a generic Android phone instead of an iPhone using following agents: Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 1.0; en-us; generic) AppleWebKit/525.10+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0.4 Mobile Safari/523.12.2 or Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 1.5; en-us; generic) AppleWebKit/528.5+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.2 Mobile Safari/525.20.1 Maybe one of these two do the trick for you. _ Je hele online leven op één stek met Windows Live http://www.microsoft.com/belux/nl/windows/windowslive/default.aspx ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Am Montag, den 21.09.2009, 13:46 + schrieb Niels Heyvaert: I believe this topic has been discussed in the recent past. Perhaps the answer to your question is already in the mailarchive (see http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td3506259). Try opening up Midori, go to Edit Preferences Network Identify as Custom And put in: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/1A543a Safari/419.3 You could also try pretending to be a generic Android phone instead of an iPhone using following agents: Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 1.0; en-us; generic) AppleWebKit/525.10+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0.4 Mobile Safari/523.12.2 or Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 1.5; en-us; generic) AppleWebKit/528.5+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.2 Mobile Safari/525.20.1 Maybe one of these two do the trick for you. I already do that and it works, get the mobile interface. My problem is another as I stated already: The Gmail (mobile!) layout always limits itself to about 2/3 of the window's width instead of using the whole screen. Is there anything I could do about it except filing a bug for midori? Or is midori innocent and google does some evil hacks there to look nice on that damn iPhone (that has a smaller resolution - less width on screen)? Last.FM mobile adapts perfectly fine by the way. -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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You could also try pretending to be a generic Android phone instead of an iPhone using following agents: Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 1.0; en-us; generic) AppleWebKit/525.10+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0.4 Mobile Safari/523.12.2 or Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 1.5; en-us; generic) AppleWebKit/528.5+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.2 Mobile Safari/525.20.1 Maybe one of these two do the trick for you. I already do that and it works, get the mobile interface. My problem is another as I stated already: The Gmail (mobile!) layout always limits itself to about 2/3 of the window's width instead of using the whole screen. Is there anything I could do about it except filing a bug for midori? Or is midori innocent and google does some evil hacks there to look nice on that damn iPhone I'm sorry if I didn't explain myself when sending the other user agents: The reason for suggesting the other two UserAgent strings is because while playing around with Android I've used gmail, facebook, hotmail etc. on the device and never noticed any problem with the screen resolution. So instead of pretending to be an iPhone, as you said, perhaps it could help pretending to be an Android phone? But since you tried this already, you can see the problem persists even when mimicking both Android user agents? In that case I would tend to believe it is a shortcoming in the Midori browser. Or at least the Midori maintainers could shed some light on what is happening. _ Voeg vrienden toe van LinkedIn Facebook aan je Windows Live http://profile.live.com/connect ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Am Montag, den 21.09.2009, 14:19 + schrieb Niels Heyvaert: You could also try pretending to be a generic Android phone instead of an iPhone using following agents: Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 1.0; en-us; generic) AppleWebKit/525.10+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0.4 Mobile Safari/523.12.2 or Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 1.5; en-us; generic) AppleWebKit/528.5+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.2 Mobile Safari/525.20.1 Maybe one of these two do the trick for you. I already do that and it works, get the mobile interface. My problem is another as I stated already: The Gmail (mobile!) layout always limits itself to about 2/3 of the window's width instead of using the whole screen. Is there anything I could do about it except filing a bug for midori? Or is midori innocent and google does some evil hacks there to look nice on that damn iPhone I'm sorry if I didn't explain myself when sending the other user agents: The reason for suggesting the other two UserAgent strings is because while playing around with Android I've used gmail, facebook, hotmail etc. on the device and never noticed any problem with the screen resolution. So instead of pretending to be an iPhone, as you said, perhaps it could help pretending to be an Android phone? But since you tried this already, you can see the problem persists even when mimicking both Android user agents? In that case I would tend to believe it is a shortcoming in the Midori browser. Or at least the Midori maintainers could shed some light on what is happening. Yep, the problem persists... And last.fm doesn't even offer a nice cs-sheet when using the Android ua-strings, seems like they didn't catch up yet. Probably I should drop the midori devs a mail... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You are right, it is a great browser. But two things are kind of showstoppers (at least at some pages): 1. No window-open is possible 2. when changing to another app, the keyboard does not send any keys to ewww anymore OpenMitko schrieb: In my opinion ewww [1] is the best browser so far, even in this demo stage, it is better than all the others. I hope that someone is working on it, and soon we will have one great browser :) [1] http://www.opkg.org/package_173.html 2009/9/21 Alexander Lehner leh...@edv-buero-lehner.de mailto:leh...@edv-buero-lehner.de Hi, there are many web seriveces, that offer a special compressed layout for mobile devices (gmx for example). I think they do this by reading some HTTP header fields like browser-Id or similair. Does anyone have experience with that? Or suggestions which browser to use (I currently use midori, but even midori's UI does not fit into the FR screen). Thanks, Alex. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD4DBQFKt8P+lYiDScJJ+7QRAuw8AJ9ETGfssV9E+ouC1rGMExtc2yAKkwCYh08u +7MeS6qaO7WJAjaZOFRFJg== =1QFT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: browsing: enforce layout for mobile devices
ewww is eve now and live in enlightement SVN repo, but development not so active... On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:20:47 +0400, Bastian Muck bastian.m...@gmx.de wrote: You are right, it is a great browser. But two things are kind of showstoppers (at least at some pages): 1. No window-open is possible 2. when changing to another app, the keyboard does not send any keys to ewww anymore OpenMitko schrieb: In my opinion ewww [1] is the best browser so far, even in this demo stage, it is better than all the others. I hope that someone is working on it, and soon we will have one great browser :) [1] http://www.opkg.org/package_173.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
