Re: let's launch a FR into space

2010-10-19 Thread W. B. Kranendonk
  Would a FR be able to connect to GSM cells from 30km
 above
  ground?
 
 I don't know but would doubt it from theory.
 
 Antennas [directed at] earth's surface.
 
I second the theory. How about wifi? Line of sight should not be a problem on a 
cloudles day...  The baloon could be shaped as a directional antenna when 
covering the top half in a reflective coating. An amateur radio telescope could 
use a wifi dongle as receiver and track the baloon as it rises into space.

 (...)
Hahaha, plug nav-board ;-)

  Has anyone ever tried video streaming from the FR?
 
 The first questions is how to connect a camera.
USB-hub?


Regards,

Boudewijn


  

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Re: let's launch a FR into space

2010-10-19 Thread W. B. Kranendonk
  Would a FR be able to connect to GSM cells from 30km
 above
  ground?
 
 I don't know but would doubt it from theory.
 
 Antennas [directed at] earth's surface.
 
I second the theory. How about wifi? Line of sight should not be a problem on a 
cloudles day...  The baloon could be shaped as a directional antenna when 
covering the top half in a reflective coating. An amateur radio telescope could 
use a wifi dongle as receiver and track the baloon as it rises into space.

 (...)
Hahaha, plug nav-board ;-)

  Has anyone ever tried video streaming from the FR?
 
 The first questions is how to connect a camera.
USB-hub?


Regards,

Boudewijn


  

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Re: let's launch a FR into space

2010-10-18 Thread neo

 And now think, what could be done if it was a freerunner?
http://www.mail-archive.com/community@lists.openmoko.org/msg49762.html

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Re: let's launch a FR into space

2010-10-18 Thread Marcin Ćwikła
2010/10/18 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm

 Hi everyone,

 Just read this story:
 http://mashable.com/2010/10/17/iphone-space-launch-video/

 And now think, what could be done if it was a freerunner?

 Hoping for a brainstorming session and a lunch at some time :-)

 Michal

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Freerunner was there :)
http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=20t=1430p=14569#p14569
http://www.ssc.se/?id=14315


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Re: let's launch a FR into space

2010-10-18 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller

Am 18.10.2010 um 15:17 schrieb Michal Brzozowski:

 Hi everyone,
 
 Just read this story:
 http://mashable.com/2010/10/17/iphone-space-launch-video/
 
 And now think, what could be done if it was a freerunner?

Good idea, but the Freerunner was in space one year earlier...

It was on an experimental rocket launched by DLR in 2009:


http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=20t=1430p=14569hilit=dlr#p14569

 Hoping for a brainstorming session and a lunch at some time :-)

Good idea for repeating :)

Nikolaus
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Re: let's launch a FR into space

2010-10-18 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2010/10/18 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com:

 Am 18.10.2010 um 15:17 schrieb Michal Brzozowski:

 Hi everyone,

 Just read this story:
 http://mashable.com/2010/10/17/iphone-space-launch-video/

 And now think, what could be done if it was a freerunner?

 Good idea, but the Freerunner was in space one year earlier...

I know, but I'm thinking about a low budget solution, like in the original link.

The fact that someone has sent a FR in a rocket doesn't mean that
sending it again via a weather balloon wouldn't be fun and educative
:-)

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Re: let's launch a FR into space

2010-10-18 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller

Am 18.10.2010 um 15:50 schrieb Michal Brzozowski:

 2010/10/18 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com:
 
 Am 18.10.2010 um 15:17 schrieb Michal Brzozowski:
 
 Hi everyone,
 
 Just read this story:
 http://mashable.com/2010/10/17/iphone-space-launch-video/
 
 And now think, what could be done if it was a freerunner?
 
 Good idea, but the Freerunner was in space one year earlier...
 
 I know, but I'm thinking about a low budget solution, like in the original 
 link.
 
 The fact that someone has sent a FR in a rocket doesn't mean that
 sending it again via a weather balloon wouldn't be fun and educative
 :-)

I did not at all disagree with that and said:

 Good idea for repeating :)


BR,
Nikolaus
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Re: let's launch a FR into space

2010-10-18 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2010/10/18 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com:

 I did not at all disagree with that and said:

 Good idea for repeating :)


Sure! So, first idea. Is it possible to live stream the video from the
launch? Would a FR be able to connect to GSM cells from 30km above
ground? Has anyone ever tried video streaming from the FR?

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Re: let's launch a FR into space

2010-10-18 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller

Am 18.10.2010 um 16:05 schrieb Michal Brzozowski:

 2010/10/18 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com:
 
 I did not at all disagree with that and said:
 
 Good idea for repeating :)
 
 
 Sure! So, first idea. Is it possible to live stream the video from the
 launch?

Very likely.

 Would a FR be able to connect to GSM cells from 30km above
 ground?

I don't know but would doubt it from theory.

Antennas on GSM base stations don't have a half-spherical characteristics
but try to bundle the transmitter's energy to a location where it is
needed mostly. And that is on earth's surface.

But that could be part of the experiment. Just log the list of GSM base stations
found. And add a Freerunner Navigation Board to get barometric altitude. So
you can see at which altitude which signals can be received.

 Has anyone ever tried video streaming from the FR?

The first questions is how to connect a camera.



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Re: let's launch a FR into space

2010-10-18 Thread Jose Luis Perez Diez
A Dilluns 18 Octubre 2010 15:17:55, Michal Brzozowski va escriure:
 Hi everyone,
 
 Just read this story:
 http://mashable.com/2010/10/17/iphone-space-launch-video/
 
 And now think, what could be done if it was a freerunner?

I some used the freeruner for space triops see:

http://www.datenfreihafen.org/~stefan/weblog/archives/2010/02/index.html#e2010-02-28T15_40_36.txt

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Re: let's launch a FR into space

2010-10-18 Thread Ed Kapitein
Hi all,

From what  i understand the doppler effect on the gsm signal limits the
max speed to +/- 250 Km/h.
So even with GSM coverage i doubt if it will be able to connect.

Kind regards,
Ed

On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 16:15 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
 Am 18.10.2010 um 16:05 schrieb Michal Brzozowski:
 
  2010/10/18 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com:
  
  I did not at all disagree with that and said:
  
  Good idea for repeating :)
  
  
  Sure! So, first idea. Is it possible to live stream the video from the
  launch?
 
 Very likely.
 
  Would a FR be able to connect to GSM cells from 30km above
  ground?
 
 I don't know but would doubt it from theory.
 
 Antennas on GSM base stations don't have a half-spherical characteristics
 but try to bundle the transmitter's energy to a location where it is
 needed mostly. And that is on earth's surface.
 
 But that could be part of the experiment. Just log the list of GSM base 
 stations
 found. And add a Freerunner Navigation Board to get barometric altitude. So
 you can see at which altitude which signals can be received.
 
  Has anyone ever tried video streaming from the FR?
 
 The first questions is how to connect a camera.
 
 
 
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Re: let's launch a FR into space

2010-10-18 Thread Alfa21
2010-10...@16:15 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller

  Has anyone ever tried video streaming from the FR?  
 
 The first questions is how to connect a camera.


I think you'd connect a plain usb webcam ;)

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