Re: request for audiotagging
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: OSM yes, Openmoko Yes. There's some kind of mapping GUI at http://tui.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tui/tui/mokomapper.py?view=markup It shows buttons that you can press to add tags in .osm format: speed limits etc. I haven't had a close look at it, it was suggested to me here: http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/my-openmoko-wishlist/#comments (read the comments by pavel) I think it could be extended/completed to be a usable tool, even wehn biking. It doesn't understand the road names etc but is a handy tool to add POI's etc. Someone with .py skill please have a look at it. If one would use this mokomapper with audio recorder, it'd be a powerful combination: the most simple tags you'd get by clicking FR and then read the street names. So far I've been just recording the track with tangogps and taking photos and then sync gps and EXIF times. regarding JOSM, I wouldn't use it on FR: I want a big screen to be able to do precisely what I want, to analyze the saved audio/gps/POI data.. (and I son't know what's the status of Java on OM..) Please don't let this thread die before we have a good solution! r Found a separate dictaphone or a photo camera to be useful with Freerunneers's GPX tracks and JOSM. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: request for audiotagging
OSM yes, Openmoko Yes. There's some kind of mapping GUI at http://tui.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tui/tui/mokomapper.py?view=markup It shows buttons that you can press to add tags in .osm format: speed limits etc. I haven't had a close look at it, it was suggested to me here: http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/my-openmoko-wishlist/#comments (read the comments by pavel) I think it could be extended/completed to be a usable tool, even wehn biking. It doesn't understand the road names etc but is a handy tool to add POI's etc. Someone with .py skill please have a look at it. If one would use this mokomapper with audio recorder, it'd be a powerful combination: the most simple tags you'd get by clicking FR and then read the street names. So far I've been just recording the track with tangogps and taking photos and then sync gps and EXIF times. regarding JOSM, I wouldn't use it on FR: I want a big screen to be able to do precisely what I want, to analyze the saved audio/gps/POI data.. (and I son't know what's the status of Java on OM..) Please don't let this thread die before we have a good solution! r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: request for audiotagging
Hi all My experience of OSM mapping : * tango gps : just gps tracks * OSM2go : live editing (get position by gps, download, view and edit the vector OSM data with synchro of the changes on upload) -- great, but a bit heavy and has no soud recording tool http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osm2go and http://comiles.eu/~natanael/projects/ (you must install first the goocanvas, then osm2go-data and then osm2go. Before loading it, you must create the conf folder with mkdir ~/.osm2go/ I really wish we have a tool as OSMtracker for our freerunners : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSMtracker It has big button, can record audio, etc. . Is there any hope one with coding skills can use it as an example to code a similar GUI and engine ? 2009/6/5 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi OSM yes, Openmoko Yes. There's some kind of mapping GUI at http://tui.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tui/tui/mokomapper.py?view=markup It shows buttons that you can press to add tags in .osm format: speed limits etc. I haven't had a close look at it, it was suggested to me here: http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/my-openmoko-wishlist/#comments (read the comments by pavel) I think it could be extended/completed to be a usable tool, even wehn biking. It doesn't understand the road names etc but is a handy tool to add POI's etc. Someone with .py skill please have a look at it. If one would use this mokomapper with audio recorder, it'd be a powerful combination: the most simple tags you'd get by clicking FR and then read the street names. So far I've been just recording the track with tangogps and taking photos and then sync gps and EXIF times. regarding JOSM, I wouldn't use it on FR: I want a big screen to be able to do precisely what I want, to analyze the saved audio/gps/POI data.. (and I son't know what's the status of Java on OM..) Please don't let this thread die before we have a good solution! r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: request for audiotagging
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:57 AM, kimaidoukimai...@gmail.com wrote: I really wish we have a tool as OSMtracker for our freerunners : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSMtracker It has big button, can record audio, etc. . Is there any hope one with coding skills can use it as an example to code a similar GUI and engine ? See my previous post: There's some kind of mapping GUI at http://tui.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tui/tui/mokomapper.py?view=markup It shows buttons that you can press to add tags in .osm format: speed limits etc. I haven't had a close look at it, it was suggested to me here: http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/my-openmoko-wishlist/#comments (read the comments by pavel) I think it could be extended/completed to be a usable tool, even wehn biking. It doesn't understand the road names etc but is a handy tool to add POI's etc. Someone with .py skill please have a look at it. If one would use this mokomapper with audio recorder, it'd be a powerful combination: the most simple tags you'd get by clicking FR and then read the street names. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: request for audiotagging
hum, this is a start, indeed. Could someone test it and post screenshots here (or anywhere else, the wiki is a great start..) ? My freerunner is in Germany for a buzzfix :(. Thanks in advance 2009/6/5 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:57 AM, kimaidoukimai...@gmail.com wrote: I really wish we have a tool as OSMtracker for our freerunners : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSMtracker It has big button, can record audio, etc. . Is there any hope one with coding skills can use it as an example to code a similar GUI and engine ? See my previous post: There's some kind of mapping GUI at http://tui.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tui/tui/mokomapper.py?view=markup It shows buttons that you can press to add tags in .osm format: speed limits etc. I haven't had a close look at it, it was suggested to me here: http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/my-openmoko-wishlist/#comments (read the comments by pavel) I think it could be extended/completed to be a usable tool, even wehn biking. It doesn't understand the road names etc but is a handy tool to add POI's etc. Someone with .py skill please have a look at it. If one would use this mokomapper with audio recorder, it'd be a powerful combination: the most simple tags you'd get by clicking FR and then read the street names. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: request for audiotagging
Well, dictators author, that's me. I'm about to add a feature to correlate your voicenotes to gps-coords via a textfile. that's all i can do with dictator. my freerunner is about to be buzz-fixed near munich, so i can't make any progress on this now. recording in background during your whole osm-mapping-ride will produce a huge wav-file which won't fit onto a regular sd-card. so beware of that. I usually stop and take notes on dead tree from time to time instead. that's the method. while walking i even don't have to stop. Any hint on how to make the created textfile more usable with the most common osm-tools would be fine! :) matthias On Friday 05 June 2009, jeremy jozwik wrote: im a regular to the OSM, but have never tried audiotagging. my guess is that this could be done with dictator running in the background behind tango or omgps. though im not sure if background recording works. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 1:14 PM, ivvmm unachieva...@gmail.com wrote: Hello list, are there any OpenStreetMappers here? How to you map. I find it nearly impossible. The map in our region is rather pour and needs expanding. It is being done only by two persons, although we have drawn all the streets and many buildings in native town. We have named streets, because we do remember their names. Numbered some of the houses — that is already hard. You have to print on a piece of paper the map. And go on foot around your town and just write down the numbers of houses. That is very inconvenient, because it is slow and you can only do that on foot. No bicycle, no car because you will have to stop many times. So what's about suburbs? It is pretty undrawn. Don't know even the names of streets there. So a single thing could to do is just ride them all and put on a map at home using GPS tracks. Much more could be done with audio tagging. Please, could someone extend either TangoGPS or omgps? That will be cutting more power from battery, but that will also help more. Maybe some voice autodetection(by detecting loud noise for example). And using speex codec for minimum size? Thanks. p.s. yesterday one my friend read the name of omgps as 'OMG ps?' ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: request for audiotagging
2009/6/5 matthias matthiasfels...@web.de: recording in background during your whole osm-mapping-ride will produce a huge wav-file which won't fit onto a regular sd-card. so beware of that. 22kHz, 1 channel, 16 bit is 2.5MB/min - this is more than good enough quality for picking out words, etc a two hour trip would be ~280Mb. no problem we could probably go down to 11kHz, 8 bit, and not have problems - this would be 35MB/hr or, to save more space, would the freerunner be capable of encoding mp3? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: request for audiotagging
On Friday 05 June 2009, Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/6/5 matthias matthiasfels...@web.de: recording in background during your whole osm-mapping-ride will produce a huge wav-file which won't fit onto a regular sd-card. so beware of that. 22kHz, 1 channel, 16 bit is 2.5MB/min - this is more than good enough quality for picking out words, etc a two hour trip would be ~280Mb. no problem we could probably go down to 11kHz, 8 bit, and not have problems - this would be 35MB/hr or, to save more space, would the freerunner be capable of encoding mp3? I don't see why not, although a voice-specific codec like speex or gsm might be better. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: request for audiotagging
matthias wrote: Well, dictators author, that's me. Hello, thank you very much for your app! recording in background during your whole osm-mapping-ride will produce a huge wav-file which won't fit onto a regular sd-card. so beware of that. Please, make it produce not wave, not flac, not mp3 not ogg. Make it produce speex for speed and very little space. It was designed for voice. Visit http://www.speex.org/ for more information about it. It is a free-as-in-freedom codec developed by those who developed ogg vorbis codec. Thank you. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: request for audiotagging
I tried to get ogg-encoding working, but as I'm limitted to Python and the python-wrapper for ogg-encoding simply do not work when it comes to encoding, i gave it up. I know about speex but until now there was no chance to get pyspeex on my freerunner. If there's anything I've missed, making speex-encoding really easy to do, please please please point me towards that. matthias ivvmm schrieb: matthias wrote: Well, dictators author, that's me. Hello, thank you very much for your app! recording in background during your whole osm-mapping-ride will produce a huge wav-file which won't fit onto a regular sd-card. so beware of that. Please, make it produce not wave, not flac, not mp3 not ogg. Make it produce speex for speed and very little space. It was designed for voice. Visit http://www.speex.org/ for more information about it. It is a free-as-in-freedom codec developed by those who developed ogg vorbis codec. Thank you. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: request for audiotagging
im a regular to the OSM, but have never tried audiotagging. my guess is that this could be done with dictator running in the background behind tango or omgps. though im not sure if background recording works. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 1:14 PM, ivvmm unachieva...@gmail.com wrote: Hello list, are there any OpenStreetMappers here? How to you map. I find it nearly impossible. The map in our region is rather pour and needs expanding. It is being done only by two persons, although we have drawn all the streets and many buildings in native town. We have named streets, because we do remember their names. Numbered some of the houses — that is already hard. You have to print on a piece of paper the map. And go on foot around your town and just write down the numbers of houses. That is very inconvenient, because it is slow and you can only do that on foot. No bicycle, no car because you will have to stop many times. So what's about suburbs? It is pretty undrawn. Don't know even the names of streets there. So a single thing could to do is just ride them all and put on a map at home using GPS tracks. Much more could be done with audio tagging. Please, could someone extend either TangoGPS or omgps? That will be cutting more power from battery, but that will also help more. Maybe some voice autodetection(by detecting loud noise for example). And using speex codec for minimum size? Thanks. p.s. yesterday one my friend read the name of omgps as 'OMG ps?' ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: request for audiotagging
iirc the author of dictator added features specifically to make it usable for audio tagging while recording tracklogs with tangogps, though it should work with omgps too. I've not tried it though - too much wind noise when I'm cycling. I usually stop and take notes on dead tree from time to time instead. On Friday 05 June 2009, jeremy jozwik wrote: im a regular to the OSM, but have never tried audiotagging. my guess is that this could be done with dictator running in the background behind tango or omgps. though im not sure if background recording works. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 1:14 PM, ivvmm unachieva...@gmail.com wrote: Hello list, are there any OpenStreetMappers here? How to you map. I find it nearly impossible. The map in our region is rather pour and needs expanding. It is being done only by two persons, although we have drawn all the streets and many buildings in native town. We have named streets, because we do remember their names. Numbered some of the houses — that is already hard. You have to print on a piece of paper the map. And go on foot around your town and just write down the numbers of houses. That is very inconvenient, because it is slow and you can only do that on foot. No bicycle, no car because you will have to stop many times. So what's about suburbs? It is pretty undrawn. Don't know even the names of streets there. So a single thing could to do is just ride them all and put on a map at home using GPS tracks. Much more could be done with audio tagging. Please, could someone extend either TangoGPS or omgps? That will be cutting more power from battery, but that will also help more. Maybe some voice autodetection(by detecting loud noise for example). And using speex codec for minimum size? Thanks. p.s. yesterday one my friend read the name of omgps as 'OMG ps?' ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
