Re: xfwm instead of matchbox-wm on debian?

2008-09-04 Thread Marcel
What does your zhone-session look like exactly? I cannot seem to reproduce 
this... :/

-Marcel

Am Mittwoch 03 September 2008 23:02:48 schrieb Fox Mulder:
 I found a solution. With xfwm4 i now can change settings for all
 windows. When i set the keyboard window to always on top it gets over
 all other windows. Now it is useable within all circumstances.
 And the good part is that xfwm4 uses about the same amout of ram as
 matchbox-wm but is much more comfortable. :)

 Ciao,
  Rainer

 Fox Mulder wrote:
  Ok it seems it does work after restart. I only tried to kill matchbox-wm
  and start xfwm4 (and matchbox-keyboard-toggle) but then it doesn't work.
  Now i tried to replace the wm within the zhone-session file and rebooted
  and the keyboard comes when pressing the key. :)
 
  Now i only have the problem left that the keyboard window isn't on top
  all the time and some system windows are above the keyboard. So i can't
  type anything into these windows because i can't get the keyboard on top
  again. :/
 
  Ciao,
   Rainer
 
  Christian Adams wrote:
  moin,
  you could edit /usr/bin/matchbox-keyboard-toggle (simpley python) to
  open/close xvkbd instead matchbox-keyboard. you can also give xvkbd a
  -geometry widthxheight+x+y to tel it where to appear on the
  screen.
 
  (like i do in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup xvkbd -xdm -compact -geometry
  480x210+0+430 )
 
  regards, morlac
 
  Am 03.09.2008 um 21:01 schrieb Fox Mulder:
  You have to replace the matchbox-wm line in zhone-session by xfwm4 to
  start the xfce-wm. I also experiment with it at the moment but i
  got one
  big problem.
  Everything looks fine after start and xfwm is running. Now it is much
  more to my liking with window resize and move functions.
  But the matchbox keyboard isn't working anymore (won't pop up after
  key
  press) which is a big problem. I think the keyboard is only properly
  attached to matchbox-wm and not xfwm. Maybe it doesn't work at all
  with
  xfwm, but this is the point where i'm stuck at.
  Does anybody know what i have to do to regain the matchbox keyboard or
  maybe some other keyboard with xfwm when pressing the aux button?
  I still have the matchbox-keyboard-toggle  in the zhone-session
  file
  before starting xfwm.
  Ciao,
   Rainer
 
  Marcel wrote:
  Moin,
 
  I was recently trying to get xfwm running instead of the matchbox-
  wm on
  debian, but simply removing the matchbox-wm line from zhone-
  session only
  prevents xfce from starting at all, xorg comes up though.
 
  Where's matchbox-window-manager woven in additionally? Or where/
  how do I need
  to start xfwm4, isn't it loaded by startxfce4?
 
  -Marcel
 
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Re: xfwm instead of matchbox-wm on debian?

2008-09-04 Thread Fox Mulder
This is my current zhone-session file

--
#!/bin/sh

#zhone 
exec startxfce4 
matchbox-keyboard-toggle 
#exec matchbox-window-manager -use_titlebar yes
exec xfwm4
--

Now the matchbox keyboard works and xvkbd is also useable when i change
the matchbox-keyboard-toggle script to invoke this virtual keyboard.
Only problem is that now some windows are bigger than the screen and i
have to move them to see all of it because they can't be resized.
But most other windows now can be resized to my liking. :)

Ciao,
 Rainer

Marcel wrote:
 What does your zhone-session look like exactly? I cannot seem to reproduce 
 this... :/
 
 -Marcel
 
 Am Mittwoch 03 September 2008 23:02:48 schrieb Fox Mulder:
 I found a solution. With xfwm4 i now can change settings for all
 windows. When i set the keyboard window to always on top it gets over
 all other windows. Now it is useable within all circumstances.
 And the good part is that xfwm4 uses about the same amout of ram as
 matchbox-wm but is much more comfortable. :)

 Ciao,
  Rainer

 Fox Mulder wrote:
 Ok it seems it does work after restart. I only tried to kill matchbox-wm
 and start xfwm4 (and matchbox-keyboard-toggle) but then it doesn't work.
 Now i tried to replace the wm within the zhone-session file and rebooted
 and the keyboard comes when pressing the key. :)

 Now i only have the problem left that the keyboard window isn't on top
 all the time and some system windows are above the keyboard. So i can't
 type anything into these windows because i can't get the keyboard on top
 again. :/

 Ciao,
  Rainer

 Christian Adams wrote:
 moin,
 you could edit /usr/bin/matchbox-keyboard-toggle (simpley python) to
 open/close xvkbd instead matchbox-keyboard. you can also give xvkbd a
 -geometry widthxheight+x+y to tel it where to appear on the
 screen.

 (like i do in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup xvkbd -xdm -compact -geometry
 480x210+0+430 )

 regards, morlac

 Am 03.09.2008 um 21:01 schrieb Fox Mulder:
 You have to replace the matchbox-wm line in zhone-session by xfwm4 to
 start the xfce-wm. I also experiment with it at the moment but i
 got one
 big problem.
 Everything looks fine after start and xfwm is running. Now it is much
 more to my liking with window resize and move functions.
 But the matchbox keyboard isn't working anymore (won't pop up after
 key
 press) which is a big problem. I think the keyboard is only properly
 attached to matchbox-wm and not xfwm. Maybe it doesn't work at all
 with
 xfwm, but this is the point where i'm stuck at.
 Does anybody know what i have to do to regain the matchbox keyboard or
 maybe some other keyboard with xfwm when pressing the aux button?
 I still have the matchbox-keyboard-toggle  in the zhone-session
 file
 before starting xfwm.
 Ciao,
  Rainer

 Marcel wrote:
 Moin,

 I was recently trying to get xfwm running instead of the matchbox-
 wm on
 debian, but simply removing the matchbox-wm line from zhone-
 session only
 prevents xfce from starting at all, xorg comes up though.

 Where's matchbox-window-manager woven in additionally? Or where/
 how do I need
 to start xfwm4, isn't it loaded by startxfce4?

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Re: xfwm instead of matchbox-wm on debian?

2008-09-04 Thread Fox Mulder
I updated the wiki instructions with my working zhone-session file as an
example.

Michael Shiloh wrote:
 Fox Mulder wrote:
 Ok it seems it does work after restart. I only tried to kill matchbox-wm
 and start xfwm4 (and matchbox-keyboard-toggle) but then it doesn't work.
 Now i tried to replace the wm within the zhone-session file and rebooted
 and the keyboard comes when pressing the key. :)
 
 
 Since I don't yet have Debian installed, could you please check and 
 correct as necessary my instructions at
 
 
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Re: xfwm instead of matchbox-wm on debian?

2008-09-03 Thread Fox Mulder
You have to replace the matchbox-wm line in zhone-session by xfwm4 to
start the xfce-wm. I also experiment with it at the moment but i got one
big problem.

Everything looks fine after start and xfwm is running. Now it is much
more to my liking with window resize and move functions.

But the matchbox keyboard isn't working anymore (won't pop up after key
press) which is a big problem. I think the keyboard is only properly
attached to matchbox-wm and not xfwm. Maybe it doesn't work at all with
xfwm, but this is the point where i'm stuck at.

Does anybody know what i have to do to regain the matchbox keyboard or
maybe some other keyboard with xfwm when pressing the aux button?

I still have the matchbox-keyboard-toggle  in the zhone-session file
before starting xfwm.

Ciao,
 Rainer

Marcel wrote:
 Moin,
 
 I was recently trying to get xfwm running instead of the matchbox-wm on 
 debian, but simply removing the matchbox-wm line from zhone-session only 
 prevents xfce from starting at all, xorg comes up though.
 
 Where's matchbox-window-manager woven in additionally? Or where/how do I need 
 to start xfwm4, isn't it loaded by startxfce4?
 
 -Marcel
 
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Re: xfwm instead of matchbox-wm on debian?

2008-09-03 Thread Christian Adams
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moin,
you could edit /usr/bin/matchbox-keyboard-toggle (simpley python) to  
open/close xvkbd instead matchbox-keyboard. you can also give xvkbd a  
- -geometry widthxheight+x+y to tel it where to appear on the  
screen.

(like i do in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup xvkbd -xdm -compact -geometry  
480x210+0+430 )

regards, morlac

Am 03.09.2008 um 21:01 schrieb Fox Mulder:

 You have to replace the matchbox-wm line in zhone-session by xfwm4 to
 start the xfce-wm. I also experiment with it at the moment but i  
 got one
 big problem.

 Everything looks fine after start and xfwm is running. Now it is much
 more to my liking with window resize and move functions.

 But the matchbox keyboard isn't working anymore (won't pop up after  
 key
 press) which is a big problem. I think the keyboard is only properly
 attached to matchbox-wm and not xfwm. Maybe it doesn't work at all  
 with
 xfwm, but this is the point where i'm stuck at.

 Does anybody know what i have to do to regain the matchbox keyboard or
 maybe some other keyboard with xfwm when pressing the aux button?

 I still have the matchbox-keyboard-toggle  in the zhone-session  
 file
 before starting xfwm.

 Ciao,
  Rainer

 Marcel wrote:
 Moin,

 I was recently trying to get xfwm running instead of the matchbox- 
 wm on
 debian, but simply removing the matchbox-wm line from zhone- 
 session only
 prevents xfce from starting at all, xorg comes up though.

 Where's matchbox-window-manager woven in additionally? Or where/ 
 how do I need
 to start xfwm4, isn't it loaded by startxfce4?

 -Marcel

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Re: xfwm instead of matchbox-wm on debian?

2008-09-03 Thread Fox Mulder
Ok it seems it does work after restart. I only tried to kill matchbox-wm
and start xfwm4 (and matchbox-keyboard-toggle) but then it doesn't work.
Now i tried to replace the wm within the zhone-session file and rebooted
and the keyboard comes when pressing the key. :)

Now i only have the problem left that the keyboard window isn't on top
all the time and some system windows are above the keyboard. So i can't
type anything into these windows because i can't get the keyboard on top
again. :/

Ciao,
 Rainer

Christian Adams wrote:
 moin,
 you could edit /usr/bin/matchbox-keyboard-toggle (simpley python) to  
 open/close xvkbd instead matchbox-keyboard. you can also give xvkbd a  
 -geometry widthxheight+x+y to tel it where to appear on the  
 screen.
 
 (like i do in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup xvkbd -xdm -compact -geometry  
 480x210+0+430 )
 
 regards, morlac
 
 Am 03.09.2008 um 21:01 schrieb Fox Mulder:
 
 You have to replace the matchbox-wm line in zhone-session by xfwm4 to
 start the xfce-wm. I also experiment with it at the moment but i  
 got one
 big problem.
 
 Everything looks fine after start and xfwm is running. Now it is much
 more to my liking with window resize and move functions.
 
 But the matchbox keyboard isn't working anymore (won't pop up after  
 key
 press) which is a big problem. I think the keyboard is only properly
 attached to matchbox-wm and not xfwm. Maybe it doesn't work at all  
 with
 xfwm, but this is the point where i'm stuck at.
 
 Does anybody know what i have to do to regain the matchbox keyboard or
 maybe some other keyboard with xfwm when pressing the aux button?
 
 I still have the matchbox-keyboard-toggle  in the zhone-session  
 file
 before starting xfwm.
 
 Ciao,
  Rainer
 
 Marcel wrote:
 Moin,

 I was recently trying to get xfwm running instead of the matchbox- 
 wm on
 debian, but simply removing the matchbox-wm line from zhone- 
 session only
 prevents xfce from starting at all, xorg comes up though.

 Where's matchbox-window-manager woven in additionally? Or where/ 
 how do I need
 to start xfwm4, isn't it loaded by startxfce4?

 -Marcel
 
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Re: xfwm instead of matchbox-wm on debian?

2008-09-03 Thread Fox Mulder
I found a solution. With xfwm4 i now can change settings for all
windows. When i set the keyboard window to always on top it gets over
all other windows. Now it is useable within all circumstances.
And the good part is that xfwm4 uses about the same amout of ram as
matchbox-wm but is much more comfortable. :)

Ciao,
 Rainer

Fox Mulder wrote:
 Ok it seems it does work after restart. I only tried to kill matchbox-wm
 and start xfwm4 (and matchbox-keyboard-toggle) but then it doesn't work.
 Now i tried to replace the wm within the zhone-session file and rebooted
 and the keyboard comes when pressing the key. :)
 
 Now i only have the problem left that the keyboard window isn't on top
 all the time and some system windows are above the keyboard. So i can't
 type anything into these windows because i can't get the keyboard on top
 again. :/
 
 Ciao,
  Rainer
 
 Christian Adams wrote:
 moin,
 you could edit /usr/bin/matchbox-keyboard-toggle (simpley python) to  
 open/close xvkbd instead matchbox-keyboard. you can also give xvkbd a  
 -geometry widthxheight+x+y to tel it where to appear on the  
 screen.

 (like i do in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup xvkbd -xdm -compact -geometry  
 480x210+0+430 )

 regards, morlac

 Am 03.09.2008 um 21:01 schrieb Fox Mulder:

 You have to replace the matchbox-wm line in zhone-session by xfwm4 to
 start the xfce-wm. I also experiment with it at the moment but i  
 got one
 big problem.
 Everything looks fine after start and xfwm is running. Now it is much
 more to my liking with window resize and move functions.
 But the matchbox keyboard isn't working anymore (won't pop up after  
 key
 press) which is a big problem. I think the keyboard is only properly
 attached to matchbox-wm and not xfwm. Maybe it doesn't work at all  
 with
 xfwm, but this is the point where i'm stuck at.
 Does anybody know what i have to do to regain the matchbox keyboard or
 maybe some other keyboard with xfwm when pressing the aux button?
 I still have the matchbox-keyboard-toggle  in the zhone-session  
 file
 before starting xfwm.
 Ciao,
  Rainer
 Marcel wrote:
 Moin,

 I was recently trying to get xfwm running instead of the matchbox- 
 wm on
 debian, but simply removing the matchbox-wm line from zhone- 
 session only
 prevents xfce from starting at all, xorg comes up though.

 Where's matchbox-window-manager woven in additionally? Or where/ 
 how do I need
 to start xfwm4, isn't it loaded by startxfce4?

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Re: xfwm instead of matchbox-wm on debian?

2008-09-03 Thread Michael Shiloh
Fox Mulder wrote:
 Ok it seems it does work after restart. I only tried to kill matchbox-wm
 and start xfwm4 (and matchbox-keyboard-toggle) but then it doesn't work.
 Now i tried to replace the wm within the zhone-session file and rebooted
 and the keyboard comes when pressing the key. :)


Since I don't yet have Debian installed, could you please check my 
instructions at


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Re: xfwm instead of matchbox-wm on debian?

2008-09-03 Thread Michael Shiloh
Fox Mulder wrote:
 Ok it seems it does work after restart. I only tried to kill matchbox-wm
 and start xfwm4 (and matchbox-keyboard-toggle) but then it doesn't work.
 Now i tried to replace the wm within the zhone-session file and rebooted
 and the keyboard comes when pressing the key. :)


Since I don't yet have Debian installed, could you please check and 
correct as necessary my instructions at


http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_replace_the_matchbox_window_manager_with_the_xfce_window_manager.3F

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