Re: xfwm instead of matchbox-wm on debian?
What does your zhone-session look like exactly? I cannot seem to reproduce this... :/ -Marcel Am Mittwoch 03 September 2008 23:02:48 schrieb Fox Mulder: I found a solution. With xfwm4 i now can change settings for all windows. When i set the keyboard window to always on top it gets over all other windows. Now it is useable within all circumstances. And the good part is that xfwm4 uses about the same amout of ram as matchbox-wm but is much more comfortable. :) Ciao, Rainer Fox Mulder wrote: Ok it seems it does work after restart. I only tried to kill matchbox-wm and start xfwm4 (and matchbox-keyboard-toggle) but then it doesn't work. Now i tried to replace the wm within the zhone-session file and rebooted and the keyboard comes when pressing the key. :) Now i only have the problem left that the keyboard window isn't on top all the time and some system windows are above the keyboard. So i can't type anything into these windows because i can't get the keyboard on top again. :/ Ciao, Rainer Christian Adams wrote: moin, you could edit /usr/bin/matchbox-keyboard-toggle (simpley python) to open/close xvkbd instead matchbox-keyboard. you can also give xvkbd a -geometry widthxheight+x+y to tel it where to appear on the screen. (like i do in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup xvkbd -xdm -compact -geometry 480x210+0+430 ) regards, morlac Am 03.09.2008 um 21:01 schrieb Fox Mulder: You have to replace the matchbox-wm line in zhone-session by xfwm4 to start the xfce-wm. I also experiment with it at the moment but i got one big problem. Everything looks fine after start and xfwm is running. Now it is much more to my liking with window resize and move functions. But the matchbox keyboard isn't working anymore (won't pop up after key press) which is a big problem. I think the keyboard is only properly attached to matchbox-wm and not xfwm. Maybe it doesn't work at all with xfwm, but this is the point where i'm stuck at. Does anybody know what i have to do to regain the matchbox keyboard or maybe some other keyboard with xfwm when pressing the aux button? I still have the matchbox-keyboard-toggle in the zhone-session file before starting xfwm. Ciao, Rainer Marcel wrote: Moin, I was recently trying to get xfwm running instead of the matchbox- wm on debian, but simply removing the matchbox-wm line from zhone- session only prevents xfce from starting at all, xorg comes up though. Where's matchbox-window-manager woven in additionally? Or where/ how do I need to start xfwm4, isn't it loaded by startxfce4? -Marcel -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --END CONTACT BLOCK-- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: xfwm instead of matchbox-wm on debian?
This is my current zhone-session file -- #!/bin/sh #zhone exec startxfce4 matchbox-keyboard-toggle #exec matchbox-window-manager -use_titlebar yes exec xfwm4 -- Now the matchbox keyboard works and xvkbd is also useable when i change the matchbox-keyboard-toggle script to invoke this virtual keyboard. Only problem is that now some windows are bigger than the screen and i have to move them to see all of it because they can't be resized. But most other windows now can be resized to my liking. :) Ciao, Rainer Marcel wrote: What does your zhone-session look like exactly? I cannot seem to reproduce this... :/ -Marcel Am Mittwoch 03 September 2008 23:02:48 schrieb Fox Mulder: I found a solution. With xfwm4 i now can change settings for all windows. When i set the keyboard window to always on top it gets over all other windows. Now it is useable within all circumstances. And the good part is that xfwm4 uses about the same amout of ram as matchbox-wm but is much more comfortable. :) Ciao, Rainer Fox Mulder wrote: Ok it seems it does work after restart. I only tried to kill matchbox-wm and start xfwm4 (and matchbox-keyboard-toggle) but then it doesn't work. Now i tried to replace the wm within the zhone-session file and rebooted and the keyboard comes when pressing the key. :) Now i only have the problem left that the keyboard window isn't on top all the time and some system windows are above the keyboard. So i can't type anything into these windows because i can't get the keyboard on top again. :/ Ciao, Rainer Christian Adams wrote: moin, you could edit /usr/bin/matchbox-keyboard-toggle (simpley python) to open/close xvkbd instead matchbox-keyboard. you can also give xvkbd a -geometry widthxheight+x+y to tel it where to appear on the screen. (like i do in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup xvkbd -xdm -compact -geometry 480x210+0+430 ) regards, morlac Am 03.09.2008 um 21:01 schrieb Fox Mulder: You have to replace the matchbox-wm line in zhone-session by xfwm4 to start the xfce-wm. I also experiment with it at the moment but i got one big problem. Everything looks fine after start and xfwm is running. Now it is much more to my liking with window resize and move functions. But the matchbox keyboard isn't working anymore (won't pop up after key press) which is a big problem. I think the keyboard is only properly attached to matchbox-wm and not xfwm. Maybe it doesn't work at all with xfwm, but this is the point where i'm stuck at. Does anybody know what i have to do to regain the matchbox keyboard or maybe some other keyboard with xfwm when pressing the aux button? I still have the matchbox-keyboard-toggle in the zhone-session file before starting xfwm. Ciao, Rainer Marcel wrote: Moin, I was recently trying to get xfwm running instead of the matchbox- wm on debian, but simply removing the matchbox-wm line from zhone- session only prevents xfce from starting at all, xorg comes up though. Where's matchbox-window-manager woven in additionally? Or where/ how do I need to start xfwm4, isn't it loaded by startxfce4? -Marcel -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --END CONTACT BLOCK-- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: xfwm instead of matchbox-wm on debian?
I updated the wiki instructions with my working zhone-session file as an example. Michael Shiloh wrote: Fox Mulder wrote: Ok it seems it does work after restart. I only tried to kill matchbox-wm and start xfwm4 (and matchbox-keyboard-toggle) but then it doesn't work. Now i tried to replace the wm within the zhone-session file and rebooted and the keyboard comes when pressing the key. :) Since I don't yet have Debian installed, could you please check and correct as necessary my instructions at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_replace_the_matchbox_window_manager_with_the_xfce_window_manager.3F ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: xfwm instead of matchbox-wm on debian?
You have to replace the matchbox-wm line in zhone-session by xfwm4 to start the xfce-wm. I also experiment with it at the moment but i got one big problem. Everything looks fine after start and xfwm is running. Now it is much more to my liking with window resize and move functions. But the matchbox keyboard isn't working anymore (won't pop up after key press) which is a big problem. I think the keyboard is only properly attached to matchbox-wm and not xfwm. Maybe it doesn't work at all with xfwm, but this is the point where i'm stuck at. Does anybody know what i have to do to regain the matchbox keyboard or maybe some other keyboard with xfwm when pressing the aux button? I still have the matchbox-keyboard-toggle in the zhone-session file before starting xfwm. Ciao, Rainer Marcel wrote: Moin, I was recently trying to get xfwm running instead of the matchbox-wm on debian, but simply removing the matchbox-wm line from zhone-session only prevents xfce from starting at all, xorg comes up though. Where's matchbox-window-manager woven in additionally? Or where/how do I need to start xfwm4, isn't it loaded by startxfce4? -Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: xfwm instead of matchbox-wm on debian?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 moin, you could edit /usr/bin/matchbox-keyboard-toggle (simpley python) to open/close xvkbd instead matchbox-keyboard. you can also give xvkbd a - -geometry widthxheight+x+y to tel it where to appear on the screen. (like i do in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup xvkbd -xdm -compact -geometry 480x210+0+430 ) regards, morlac Am 03.09.2008 um 21:01 schrieb Fox Mulder: You have to replace the matchbox-wm line in zhone-session by xfwm4 to start the xfce-wm. I also experiment with it at the moment but i got one big problem. Everything looks fine after start and xfwm is running. Now it is much more to my liking with window resize and move functions. But the matchbox keyboard isn't working anymore (won't pop up after key press) which is a big problem. I think the keyboard is only properly attached to matchbox-wm and not xfwm. Maybe it doesn't work at all with xfwm, but this is the point where i'm stuck at. Does anybody know what i have to do to regain the matchbox keyboard or maybe some other keyboard with xfwm when pressing the aux button? I still have the matchbox-keyboard-toggle in the zhone-session file before starting xfwm. Ciao, Rainer Marcel wrote: Moin, I was recently trying to get xfwm running instead of the matchbox- wm on debian, but simply removing the matchbox-wm line from zhone- session only prevents xfce from starting at all, xorg comes up though. Where's matchbox-window-manager woven in additionally? Or where/ how do I need to start xfwm4, isn't it loaded by startxfce4? -Marcel - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFIvujnr81gVylJyzERAkcyAKC9quRJKa5eAtdWCx48R7azxZGuiQCg3uPi uVEbXaua4qNU8m1Ib8GxdOY= =SD0f -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: xfwm instead of matchbox-wm on debian?
Ok it seems it does work after restart. I only tried to kill matchbox-wm and start xfwm4 (and matchbox-keyboard-toggle) but then it doesn't work. Now i tried to replace the wm within the zhone-session file and rebooted and the keyboard comes when pressing the key. :) Now i only have the problem left that the keyboard window isn't on top all the time and some system windows are above the keyboard. So i can't type anything into these windows because i can't get the keyboard on top again. :/ Ciao, Rainer Christian Adams wrote: moin, you could edit /usr/bin/matchbox-keyboard-toggle (simpley python) to open/close xvkbd instead matchbox-keyboard. you can also give xvkbd a -geometry widthxheight+x+y to tel it where to appear on the screen. (like i do in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup xvkbd -xdm -compact -geometry 480x210+0+430 ) regards, morlac Am 03.09.2008 um 21:01 schrieb Fox Mulder: You have to replace the matchbox-wm line in zhone-session by xfwm4 to start the xfce-wm. I also experiment with it at the moment but i got one big problem. Everything looks fine after start and xfwm is running. Now it is much more to my liking with window resize and move functions. But the matchbox keyboard isn't working anymore (won't pop up after key press) which is a big problem. I think the keyboard is only properly attached to matchbox-wm and not xfwm. Maybe it doesn't work at all with xfwm, but this is the point where i'm stuck at. Does anybody know what i have to do to regain the matchbox keyboard or maybe some other keyboard with xfwm when pressing the aux button? I still have the matchbox-keyboard-toggle in the zhone-session file before starting xfwm. Ciao, Rainer Marcel wrote: Moin, I was recently trying to get xfwm running instead of the matchbox- wm on debian, but simply removing the matchbox-wm line from zhone- session only prevents xfce from starting at all, xorg comes up though. Where's matchbox-window-manager woven in additionally? Or where/ how do I need to start xfwm4, isn't it loaded by startxfce4? -Marcel -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --END CONTACT BLOCK-- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: xfwm instead of matchbox-wm on debian?
I found a solution. With xfwm4 i now can change settings for all windows. When i set the keyboard window to always on top it gets over all other windows. Now it is useable within all circumstances. And the good part is that xfwm4 uses about the same amout of ram as matchbox-wm but is much more comfortable. :) Ciao, Rainer Fox Mulder wrote: Ok it seems it does work after restart. I only tried to kill matchbox-wm and start xfwm4 (and matchbox-keyboard-toggle) but then it doesn't work. Now i tried to replace the wm within the zhone-session file and rebooted and the keyboard comes when pressing the key. :) Now i only have the problem left that the keyboard window isn't on top all the time and some system windows are above the keyboard. So i can't type anything into these windows because i can't get the keyboard on top again. :/ Ciao, Rainer Christian Adams wrote: moin, you could edit /usr/bin/matchbox-keyboard-toggle (simpley python) to open/close xvkbd instead matchbox-keyboard. you can also give xvkbd a -geometry widthxheight+x+y to tel it where to appear on the screen. (like i do in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup xvkbd -xdm -compact -geometry 480x210+0+430 ) regards, morlac Am 03.09.2008 um 21:01 schrieb Fox Mulder: You have to replace the matchbox-wm line in zhone-session by xfwm4 to start the xfce-wm. I also experiment with it at the moment but i got one big problem. Everything looks fine after start and xfwm is running. Now it is much more to my liking with window resize and move functions. But the matchbox keyboard isn't working anymore (won't pop up after key press) which is a big problem. I think the keyboard is only properly attached to matchbox-wm and not xfwm. Maybe it doesn't work at all with xfwm, but this is the point where i'm stuck at. Does anybody know what i have to do to regain the matchbox keyboard or maybe some other keyboard with xfwm when pressing the aux button? I still have the matchbox-keyboard-toggle in the zhone-session file before starting xfwm. Ciao, Rainer Marcel wrote: Moin, I was recently trying to get xfwm running instead of the matchbox- wm on debian, but simply removing the matchbox-wm line from zhone- session only prevents xfce from starting at all, xorg comes up though. Where's matchbox-window-manager woven in additionally? Or where/ how do I need to start xfwm4, isn't it loaded by startxfce4? -Marcel -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --END CONTACT BLOCK-- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: xfwm instead of matchbox-wm on debian?
Fox Mulder wrote: Ok it seems it does work after restart. I only tried to kill matchbox-wm and start xfwm4 (and matchbox-keyboard-toggle) but then it doesn't work. Now i tried to replace the wm within the zhone-session file and rebooted and the keyboard comes when pressing the key. :) Since I don't yet have Debian installed, could you please check my instructions at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_replace_the_matchbox_window_manager_with_the_xfce_window_manager.3F ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: xfwm instead of matchbox-wm on debian?
Fox Mulder wrote: Ok it seems it does work after restart. I only tried to kill matchbox-wm and start xfwm4 (and matchbox-keyboard-toggle) but then it doesn't work. Now i tried to replace the wm within the zhone-session file and rebooted and the keyboard comes when pressing the key. :) Since I don't yet have Debian installed, could you please check and correct as necessary my instructions at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_replace_the_matchbox_window_manager_with_the_xfce_window_manager.3F ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community