Re: Some questions about TangoGPS

2010-01-19 Thread Noel
On 1/18/10, Helge Hafting  wrote:
> Noel wrote:
>> I'm the only one who sees the **big** advantage of navit over
>> tangogps, as being able to work **offline**, with very-easy-to-get
>> maps?
>
> Download all the maps you need once when you're online.
> Tangogps will work fine offline after that.
> (The same goes for navit - you have to give it a map
> to work with. Tangogps merely has the option of downloading
> maps when needed.)

I use gps apps when I'm in an **unexpected** position/place.
Otherwise, I can look on a paper map or on Internet a couple hours
before. The 512mb sd card received with neo is enough to keep a navit
map (downloaded 'very' fast) to cover my daily 'unexpected' routes. I
can't say the same for tangogps. This doesn't mean that I don't use
it. Last time was 7 months ago, when I've been a little 'adventurous'
on an uncharted (by osm) area. I used the tracking feature of tangogps
to get back from where I started :)

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Re: Some questions about TangoGPS

2010-01-18 Thread Helge Hafting
Noel wrote:
> I'm the only one who sees the **big** advantage of navit over
> tangogps, as being able to work **offline**, with very-easy-to-get
> maps? You said that tango is "very fast and very efficient at
> displaying your position". What's the use if the position is displayed
> on an empty map?

Download all the maps you need once when you're online.
Tangogps will work fine offline after that.
(The same goes for navit - you have to give it a map
to work with. Tangogps merely has the option of downloading
maps when needed.)

Helge Hafting

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Re: Some questions about TangoGPS

2010-01-10 Thread KaZeR
Le 09/01/2010 12:54, Noel a écrit :
> I'm the only one who sees the **big** advantage of navit over
> tangogps, as being able to work **offline**, with very-easy-to-get
> maps? You said that tango is "very fast and very efficient at
> displaying your position". What's the use if the position is displayed
> on an empty map?
>

I was only trying to be as objective as possible, given the fact that 
i'm a member of the navit project :)

But i do agree, having the maps on my uSD card has a big advantage, 
should it be when i go to belgium (GPRS would cost me an eye abroad) or 
when in a area with poor signal strenght. And i'm not talking of the 
turn by turn instructions.

On the other hand, Markus gave us a very nice piece of software, kudos 
to him!
> On 1/8/10, KaZeR  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Le 08/01/2010 09:31, dehqan65 a écrit :
>>
>>  
>>> 2 - In which issues Tangogps is better than Navit ?
>>>
>> IMO, they both serve different purposes.
>>
>> Tango use raster maps. It's very fast and very efficient at displaying
>> your position and/or track on a raster map.
>>
>> Navit use vector maps. Maps are drawn in realtime, which makes it a bit
>> slower. But this allows routing and turn by turn directions.
>>  
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Re: Some questions about TangoGPS

2010-01-09 Thread dehqan65
In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful

hello;

Marcus thanks , Is it possible for you to get permission from Google ?


> > 2 - How to download a part of earth (city/country) maps with zoom
> > level 15 (500/1000 meter height) ?
>
> Zoom to the area you need and click on the map. Choose the last entry
> in the pop-up menu and follow the instructions.
>

For example how to zoom on Iran country and get whole country map until
height of 500m (about zoom level 15)?
Is the way you mentioned able to do that for a country ?

Regards dehqan
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Re: Some questions about TangoGPS

2010-01-09 Thread Sebastian Reichel
Hi,

Did you ever think of using libchamplain [1] for the map view? I think
both projects would benefit from it. You could bring some tangogps
stuff into the library and benefit from some stuff which is in
libchamplain and not in tangogps.

But the real benefits would come once the GSoC project [2] is merged
into libchamplain: Rendering the tiles directly from osm files
yourself.

[1] http://projects.gnome.org/libchamplain/
[2] http://foregroundnoise.wordpress.com/2009/08/19/gsoc-09-final-report/

-- Sebastian


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Re: Some questions about TangoGPS

2010-01-09 Thread Noel
I'm the only one who sees the **big** advantage of navit over
tangogps, as being able to work **offline**, with very-easy-to-get
maps? You said that tango is "very fast and very efficient at
displaying your position". What's the use if the position is displayed
on an empty map?

On 1/8/10, KaZeR  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Le 08/01/2010 09:31, dehqan65 a écrit :
>
>> 2 - In which issues Tangogps is better than Navit ?
> IMO, they both serve different purposes.
>
> Tango use raster maps. It's very fast and very efficient at displaying
> your position and/or track on a raster map.
>
> Navit use vector maps. Maps are drawn in realtime, which makes it a bit
> slower. But this allows routing and turn by turn directions.

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Re: Some questions about TangoGPS

2010-01-08 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 00:01:22 +0330
dehqan65  wrote:
> Anyway some questions remained :
> 
> 1 - There is an option that lets tangogps users selecting using
> Google sat maps , but some problems :
> 
> A - Is not using google maps under TangoGPS against google's EULA ?

You have to ask a lawyer for that. And the more lawyers you ask, the
more opinions you will get.

I am not a lawyer. But tangoGPS uses its name as user
agent, i.e. it does not disguise as Internet Explorer or Firefox. So
simply from a practical point of view Google can block it easily.

As long as tangogps users are less than 0.01% of the traffic I
guess they wont bother.

And if you start downloading larger areas you quickly get a 24 hour
penalty...

In any case I am sure they have tuck loads of excellent lawyers :-)


> B - Quality of pictures (Google maps) in Tangogps is not the same as
> Google apps . for example check this
> locationin
> both .
> Maybe this is cause of the differnece between maps.google.com and
> http://khm.google.com/ pictures ??

No difference here for that very location. And I never saw any
difference elsewhere.


> C - Google app shows street names with an option "show label" . Can
> not Tangogps get that layer in the same way it get pictures ?

Currently no.

> 2 - How to download a part of earth (city/country) maps with zoom
> level 15 (500/1000 meter height) ?

Zoom to the area you need and click on the map. Choose the last entry
in the pop-up menu and follow the instructions.

Regards,
Marcus


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Re: Some questions about TangoGPS

2010-01-08 Thread dehqan65
In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful

Hello , The above sentence is regular phrase that we use to remember God
anytime in any letter/post /work . to remember that we are made by someone
who is compassionate merciful unique and that we are nothing against him
.more info read quran . of course it is undeniable we are free to select our
way .
also dehqan is my humble last name .

Anyway some questions remained :

1 - There is an option that lets tangogps users selecting using Google sat
maps , but some problems :

A - Is not using google maps under TangoGPS against google's EULA ? If it is
do not answer next questions .

B - Quality of pictures (Google maps) in Tangogps is not the same as Google
apps . for example check this
locationin
both .
Maybe this is cause of the differnece between maps.google.com and
http://khm.google.com/ pictures ??

C - Google app shows street names with an option "show label" . Can not
Tangogps get that layer in the same way it get pictures ?

2 - How to download a part of earth (city/country) maps with zoom level 15
(500/1000 meter height) ?

Regards dehqan
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Re: Some questions about TangoGPS

2010-01-08 Thread Yorick Moko
2010/1/8 Fabian Schölzel 

> 2010/1/8 Yorick Moko :
> > and I almost always top-post, so what :)
>
> So i'm trying middle posting right now! ;)
>
> > I made a joke about his "In the name of..." heading, but I don't care
> what
> > people write
> > to me it's about the same as "yo nigga biatches, whats up?";
> > not really my kind of talk, but hey, if it rocks your boat..
>
> I didn't meant you with my comment, Yorick.
>
> I know, I was just trying to say that it doesn't bother me how he starts
his e-mails
as long as I don't have to read the whole koran before I can see his message
(in that case i would just skip that e-mail :-))
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Re: Some questions about TangoGPS

2010-01-08 Thread Joseph Reeves
>(Maybe thats enough OT for now :) )

This isn't an OT list, thank the lord. We do use apostrophes though! ;-)

Joseph



2010/1/8 Fabian Schölzel :
> 2010/1/8 Yorick Moko :
>> and I almost always top-post, so what :)
>
> So i'm trying middle posting right now! ;)
>
>> I made a joke about his "In the name of..." heading, but I don't care what
>> people write
>> to me it's about the same as "yo nigga biatches, whats up?";
>> not really my kind of talk, but hey, if it rocks your boat..
>
> I didn't meant you with my comment, Yorick.
>
> Cheers,
> Fabian
>
> (Maybe thats enough OT for now :) )
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Re: Some questions about TangoGPS

2010-01-08 Thread Fabian Schölzel
2010/1/8 Yorick Moko :
> and I almost always top-post, so what :)

So i'm trying middle posting right now! ;)

> I made a joke about his "In the name of..." heading, but I don't care what
> people write
> to me it's about the same as "yo nigga biatches, whats up?";
> not really my kind of talk, but hey, if it rocks your boat..

I didn't meant you with my comment, Yorick.

Cheers,
Fabian

(Maybe thats enough OT for now :) )

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Re: Some questions about TangoGPS

2010-01-08 Thread Yorick Moko
and I almost always top-post, so what :)

2010/1/8 Fabian Schölzel 

> 2010/1/8 Jens Seidel :
> > That's also not a religious list.
>
> In the name of religious equality: Thats true. So religious
> collocations should not be a thing to comment. :) I think dehqan
> behaves quite fine on this list.
>


I made a joke about his "In the name of..." heading, but I don't care what
people write
to me it's about the same as "yo nigga biatches, whats up?";
not really my kind of talk, but hey, if it rocks your boat..

wrt his name:
I really thing his name is dehqan
apparently it's a name with afghan roots meaning farmer:
http://babynamesworld.parentsconnect.com/meaning_of_Dehqan.html


and I have never seen him write anything offensive or out of line...
he seems actually very polite to me...



dehquan: keep posting questions if you have them!
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Re: Some questions about TangoGPS

2010-01-08 Thread Fabian Schölzel
2010/1/8 Jens Seidel :
> That's also not a religious list.

In the name of religious equality: Thats true. So religious
collocations should not be a thing to comment. :) I think dehqan
behaves quite fine on this list.

Cheers,
Fabian

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Re: Some questions about TangoGPS

2010-01-08 Thread George Brooke
On Friday 08 Jan 2010 09:20:32 Jens Seidel wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 08, 2010 at 12:01:19PM +0330, dehqan65 wrote:
> > In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful
> 
> I'm not sure whether you know that at least I and probably many other
>  people just stop reading after this line. I strongly suggest that you
>  write in your name and not in the name of others. That's also not a
>  religious list.
I for one find this no more or less annoying than the signatures on many 
people's emails (for 
example the Ascii Ribbon Campaign)

> Hi dehqan65,
> 
> please follow standard mailing list etiquettes and use a proper name.
Well I don't see this mentioned anywhere in RFC 1855 or any list specific rules 
(couldn't actually 
find any) and dehqan65 is not by anymeans the only one on this list to not use 
their full names.
Further more if you read beyond the above mentioned line you'll see that the 
email is signed 
"dehqan" which rather suggests that is his name.

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Re: Some questions about TangoGPS

2010-01-08 Thread Jens Seidel
Hi dehqan65,

please follow standard mailing list etiquettes and use a proper name.

On Fri, Jan 08, 2010 at 12:01:19PM +0330, dehqan65 wrote:
> In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful

I'm not sure whether you know that at least I and probably many other people
just stop reading after this line. I strongly suggest that you write in your
name and not in the name of others. That's also not a religious list.

Jens

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Re: Some questions about TangoGPS

2010-01-08 Thread KaZeR
Hi,

Le 08/01/2010 09:31, dehqan65 a écrit :

> 2 - In which issues Tangogps is better than Navit ?
IMO, they both serve different purposes.

Tango use raster maps. It's very fast and very efficient at displaying 
your position and/or track on a raster map.

Navit use vector maps. Maps are drawn in realtime, which makes it a bit 
slower. But this allows routing and turn by turn directions.


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Some questions about TangoGPS

2010-01-08 Thread dehqan65
In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful

hello;



1 - There is an option that lets tangogps users selecting using Google sat
maps , but they have 2 problems :
A - Quality of pictures in Tangogps is not the same as Google apps . for
example check this
locationin
both .
Maybe this is cause of the differnece between maps.google.com and
http://khm.google.com/ pictures ??

B - Google app shows street names with an option "show label" . Can not
Tangogps get that layer in the same way it get pictures ?

2 - In which issues Tangogps is better than Navit ?

Regards dehqan
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