Re: Some questions about TangoGPS
On 1/18/10, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Noel wrote: I'm the only one who sees the **big** advantage of navit over tangogps, as being able to work **offline**, with very-easy-to-get maps? Download all the maps you need once when you're online. Tangogps will work fine offline after that. (The same goes for navit - you have to give it a map to work with. Tangogps merely has the option of downloading maps when needed.) I use gps apps when I'm in an **unexpected** position/place. Otherwise, I can look on a paper map or on Internet a couple hours before. The 512mb sd card received with neo is enough to keep a navit map (downloaded 'very' fast) to cover my daily 'unexpected' routes. I can't say the same for tangogps. This doesn't mean that I don't use it. Last time was 7 months ago, when I've been a little 'adventurous' on an uncharted (by osm) area. I used the tracking feature of tangogps to get back from where I started :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about TangoGPS
Noel wrote: I'm the only one who sees the **big** advantage of navit over tangogps, as being able to work **offline**, with very-easy-to-get maps? You said that tango is very fast and very efficient at displaying your position. What's the use if the position is displayed on an empty map? Download all the maps you need once when you're online. Tangogps will work fine offline after that. (The same goes for navit - you have to give it a map to work with. Tangogps merely has the option of downloading maps when needed.) Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about TangoGPS
Le 09/01/2010 12:54, Noel a écrit : I'm the only one who sees the **big** advantage of navit over tangogps, as being able to work **offline**, with very-easy-to-get maps? You said that tango is very fast and very efficient at displaying your position. What's the use if the position is displayed on an empty map? I was only trying to be as objective as possible, given the fact that i'm a member of the navit project :) But i do agree, having the maps on my uSD card has a big advantage, should it be when i go to belgium (GPRS would cost me an eye abroad) or when in a area with poor signal strenght. And i'm not talking of the turn by turn instructions. On the other hand, Markus gave us a very nice piece of software, kudos to him! On 1/8/10, KaZeRka...@altern.org wrote: Hi, Le 08/01/2010 09:31, dehqan65 a écrit : 2 - In which issues Tangogps is better than Navit ? IMO, they both serve different purposes. Tango use raster maps. It's very fast and very efficient at displaying your position and/or track on a raster map. Navit use vector maps. Maps are drawn in realtime, which makes it a bit slower. But this allows routing and turn by turn directions. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about TangoGPS
I'm the only one who sees the **big** advantage of navit over tangogps, as being able to work **offline**, with very-easy-to-get maps? You said that tango is very fast and very efficient at displaying your position. What's the use if the position is displayed on an empty map? On 1/8/10, KaZeR ka...@altern.org wrote: Hi, Le 08/01/2010 09:31, dehqan65 a écrit : 2 - In which issues Tangogps is better than Navit ? IMO, they both serve different purposes. Tango use raster maps. It's very fast and very efficient at displaying your position and/or track on a raster map. Navit use vector maps. Maps are drawn in realtime, which makes it a bit slower. But this allows routing and turn by turn directions. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about TangoGPS
Hi, Did you ever think of using libchamplain [1] for the map view? I think both projects would benefit from it. You could bring some tangogps stuff into the library and benefit from some stuff which is in libchamplain and not in tangogps. But the real benefits would come once the GSoC project [2] is merged into libchamplain: Rendering the tiles directly from osm files yourself. [1] http://projects.gnome.org/libchamplain/ [2] http://foregroundnoise.wordpress.com/2009/08/19/gsoc-09-final-report/ -- Sebastian signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about TangoGPS
In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful hello; Marcus thanks , Is it possible for you to get permission from Google ? 2 - How to download a part of earth (city/country) maps with zoom level 15 (500/1000 meter height) ? Zoom to the area you need and click on the map. Choose the last entry in the pop-up menu and follow the instructions. For example how to zoom on Iran country and get whole country map until height of 500m (about zoom level 15)? Is the way you mentioned able to do that for a country ? Regards dehqan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Some questions about TangoGPS
In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful hello; 1 - There is an option that lets tangogps users selecting using Google sat maps , but they have 2 problems : A - Quality of pictures in Tangogps is not the same as Google apps . for example check this locationhttp://maps.google.com/maps?ll=32.7026,51.1537spn=0.046946,0.097418t=kz=14key=ABQIEHSQK1vAAAuBZm_l9nDfuxR-o64xXIeDw7j_JZZzFnbEVH6OthQCJTz0e4bbm3CpyEKMFqf7FEzFIwmapclient=jsapioi=map_miscct=api_logoin both . Maybe this is cause of the differnece between maps.google.com and http://khm.google.com/ pictures ?? B - Google app shows street names with an option show label . Can not Tangogps get that layer in the same way it get pictures ? 2 - In which issues Tangogps is better than Navit ? Regards dehqan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about TangoGPS
Hi, Le 08/01/2010 09:31, dehqan65 a écrit : 2 - In which issues Tangogps is better than Navit ? IMO, they both serve different purposes. Tango use raster maps. It's very fast and very efficient at displaying your position and/or track on a raster map. Navit use vector maps. Maps are drawn in realtime, which makes it a bit slower. But this allows routing and turn by turn directions. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about TangoGPS
Hi dehqan65, please follow standard mailing list etiquettes and use a proper name. On Fri, Jan 08, 2010 at 12:01:19PM +0330, dehqan65 wrote: In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful I'm not sure whether you know that at least I and probably many other people just stop reading after this line. I strongly suggest that you write in your name and not in the name of others. That's also not a religious list. Jens ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about TangoGPS
On Friday 08 Jan 2010 09:20:32 Jens Seidel wrote: On Fri, Jan 08, 2010 at 12:01:19PM +0330, dehqan65 wrote: In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful I'm not sure whether you know that at least I and probably many other people just stop reading after this line. I strongly suggest that you write in your name and not in the name of others. That's also not a religious list. I for one find this no more or less annoying than the signatures on many people's emails (for example the Ascii Ribbon Campaign) Hi dehqan65, please follow standard mailing list etiquettes and use a proper name. Well I don't see this mentioned anywhere in RFC 1855 or any list specific rules (couldn't actually find any) and dehqan65 is not by anymeans the only one on this list to not use their full names. Further more if you read beyond the above mentioned line you'll see that the email is signed dehqan which rather suggests that is his name. solar.george --- George Brooke solar.geo...@googlemail.com george.bro...@switchonswitchoff.org The C-Change Peer-Education Project (www.switchonswitchoff.org) Switch On to Climate Change National Carbon Champions 2008 (www.energyawards.org.uk) C-Change is a partnership between the Woodcraft Folk youth organisation (www.woodcraft.org.uk), The Centre for Alternative Technology (www.cat.org.uk) and De Monfort University (www.dmu.ac.uk). signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about TangoGPS
2010/1/8 Jens Seidel jenssei...@users.sf.net: That's also not a religious list. In the name of religious equality: Thats true. So religious collocations should not be a thing to comment. :) I think dehqan behaves quite fine on this list. Cheers, Fabian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about TangoGPS
and I almost always top-post, so what :) 2010/1/8 Fabian Schölzel fabian.schoel...@googlemail.com 2010/1/8 Jens Seidel jenssei...@users.sf.net: That's also not a religious list. In the name of religious equality: Thats true. So religious collocations should not be a thing to comment. :) I think dehqan behaves quite fine on this list. I made a joke about his In the name of... heading, but I don't care what people write to me it's about the same as yo nigga biatches, whats up?; not really my kind of talk, but hey, if it rocks your boat.. wrt his name: I really thing his name is dehqan apparently it's a name with afghan roots meaning farmer: http://babynamesworld.parentsconnect.com/meaning_of_Dehqan.html and I have never seen him write anything offensive or out of line... he seems actually very polite to me... dehquan: keep posting questions if you have them! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about TangoGPS
2010/1/8 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com: and I almost always top-post, so what :) So i'm trying middle posting right now! ;) I made a joke about his In the name of... heading, but I don't care what people write to me it's about the same as yo nigga biatches, whats up?; not really my kind of talk, but hey, if it rocks your boat.. I didn't meant you with my comment, Yorick. Cheers, Fabian (Maybe thats enough OT for now :) ) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about TangoGPS
(Maybe thats enough OT for now :) ) This isn't an OT list, thank the lord. We do use apostrophes though! ;-) Joseph 2010/1/8 Fabian Schölzel fabian.schoel...@googlemail.com: 2010/1/8 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com: and I almost always top-post, so what :) So i'm trying middle posting right now! ;) I made a joke about his In the name of... heading, but I don't care what people write to me it's about the same as yo nigga biatches, whats up?; not really my kind of talk, but hey, if it rocks your boat.. I didn't meant you with my comment, Yorick. Cheers, Fabian (Maybe thats enough OT for now :) ) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about TangoGPS
In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful Hello , The above sentence is regular phrase that we use to remember God anytime in any letter/post /work . to remember that we are made by someone who is compassionate merciful unique and that we are nothing against him .more info read quran . of course it is undeniable we are free to select our way . also dehqan is my humble last name . Anyway some questions remained : 1 - There is an option that lets tangogps users selecting using Google sat maps , but some problems : A - Is not using google maps under TangoGPS against google's EULA ? If it is do not answer next questions . B - Quality of pictures (Google maps) in Tangogps is not the same as Google apps . for example check this locationhttp://maps.google.com/maps?ll=32.7026,51.1537spn=0.046946,0.097418t=kz=14key=ABQIEHSQK1vAAAuBZm_l9nDfuxR-o64xXIeDw7j_JZZzFnbEVH6OthQCJTz0e4bbm3CpyEKMFqf7FEzFIwmapclient=jsapioi=map_miscct=api_logoin both . Maybe this is cause of the differnece between maps.google.com and http://khm.google.com/ pictures ?? C - Google app shows street names with an option show label . Can not Tangogps get that layer in the same way it get pictures ? 2 - How to download a part of earth (city/country) maps with zoom level 15 (500/1000 meter height) ? Regards dehqan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about TangoGPS
On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 00:01:22 +0330 dehqan65 dehqa...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway some questions remained : 1 - There is an option that lets tangogps users selecting using Google sat maps , but some problems : A - Is not using google maps under TangoGPS against google's EULA ? You have to ask a lawyer for that. And the more lawyers you ask, the more opinions you will get. I am not a lawyer. But tangoGPS uses its name as user agent, i.e. it does not disguise as Internet Explorer or Firefox. So simply from a practical point of view Google can block it easily. As long as tangogps users are less than 0.01% of the traffic I guess they wont bother. And if you start downloading larger areas you quickly get a 24 hour penalty... In any case I am sure they have tuck loads of excellent lawyers :-) B - Quality of pictures (Google maps) in Tangogps is not the same as Google apps . for example check this locationhttp://maps.google.com/maps?ll=32.7026,51.1537spn=0.046946,0.097418t=kz=14key=ABQIEHSQK1vAAAuBZm_l9nDfuxR-o64xXIeDw7j_JZZzFnbEVH6OthQCJTz0e4bbm3CpyEKMFqf7FEzFIwmapclient=jsapioi=map_miscct=api_logoin both . Maybe this is cause of the differnece between maps.google.com and http://khm.google.com/ pictures ?? No difference here for that very location. And I never saw any difference elsewhere. C - Google app shows street names with an option show label . Can not Tangogps get that layer in the same way it get pictures ? Currently no. 2 - How to download a part of earth (city/country) maps with zoom level 15 (500/1000 meter height) ? Zoom to the area you need and click on the map. Choose the last entry in the pop-up menu and follow the instructions. Regards, Marcus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
