Re: When Good Agendas Turn Bad - Linux/GNU, etc

2007-01-24 Thread Oleg Gusev
Am Donnerstag, 25. Januar 2007 00:17 schrieb Dave Crossland: > > The presence of a proprietary userland binary in the main/official > distribution makes it a crippled device which actively impose upon our > Freedoms. > IMHO the right way to deal with this particular problem is to break the GL comm

Re: When Good Agendas Turn Bad - Linux/GNU, etc

2007-01-24 Thread Dave Crossland
On 24/01/07, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If we were to lose the FSF perspective at any stage down the road, then we could end up only able to buy highly sophisticated yet crippled devices which actively impose upon our Freedoms. Like now, but worse. In that sense, I imagine the Ne

Re: When Good Agendas Turn Bad - Linux/GNU, etc

2007-01-24 Thread Richard Franks
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 19:59 +, Declan Naughton wrote: > "Threat to unregister" I never knew you considered me to be such a > valuable asset. I posted pretty much exclusively to the GNU/Linux or > Linux related threads. The point of a community is that everyone has something to contribute. >

Re: When Good Agendas Turn Bad - Linux/GNU, etc

2007-01-24 Thread Andraž 'ruskie' Levstik
Here is my reason for using the term "GNU/Linux". It's fair to both the Linux developers and to the GNU project. Why is it fair? Well so far I have yet to see either a Linux userland or a GNU kernel so it's a MIXED environment and should be treated like that. There are also other MIXED environm

Re: When Good Agendas Turn Bad - Linux/GNU, etc

2007-01-24 Thread Declan Naughton
On 1/24/07, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 19:08 +, Declan Naughton wrote: > > The "Free Your Phone" post was perhaps the most interesting announcement > > we've had yet - Sean thinks we're going to be building the foundation > > for Ubiquitous Computing - I t

Re: When Good Agendas Turn Bad - Linux/GNU, etc

2007-01-24 Thread Richard Franks
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 19:08 +, Declan Naughton wrote: > > The "Free Your Phone" post was perhaps the most interesting announcement > > we've had yet - Sean thinks we're going to be building the foundation > > for Ubiquitous Computing - I think he's right, but this positive message > > was compl

Re: When Good Agendas Turn Bad - Linux/GNU, etc

2007-01-24 Thread Declan Naughton
On 1/24/07, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 18:19 +, Declan Naughton wrote: > On 1/24/07, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How about we let our Agenda be the cool technology and innovation > > instead? > > So freedom has nothing to do with it? > >

Re: When Good Agendas Turn Bad - Linux/GNU, etc

2007-01-24 Thread Richard Franks
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 18:19 +, Declan Naughton wrote: > On 1/24/07, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How about we let our Agenda be the cool technology and innovation > > instead? > > So freedom has nothing to do with it? > > I wouldn't be too surprised. I read some nice stuff fr

Re: When Good Agendas Turn Bad - Linux/GNU, etc

2007-01-24 Thread Declan Naughton
On 1/24/07, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How about we let our Agenda be the cool technology and innovation instead? So freedom has nothing to do with it? I wouldn't be too surprised. I read some nice stuff from Sean alright, but IF you just wrote an apt description of "our Agenda"

When Good Agendas Turn Bad - Linux/GNU, etc

2007-01-24 Thread Richard Franks
On 1/24/07 6:11 AM, "Dave Crossland" wrote: > Hi Sean, > > On 23/01/07, David Ford wrote: >> You must be reading a different link. Sean's email most clearly states >> "in the form of a user's manual that will give credit to GNU." He also >> clearly stated "We'll just call it OpenMoko." > > Co