Re: [cg] 6th Street Avenue B Garden responds

2005-10-07 Thread Adam36055
C'mon... We all have insurance problems in our NYC gardens. But if you keep your garden safe and tidy, and don't leave crap all over the place for people to trip over, and think of yourselves as a public venue, one that's open more than 10 hours a week, for a neighborhood that's open

[cg] community garden fee hike

2005-10-07 Thread yarrow
Hi -- I just heard that our local community garden rates are scheduled to go up from 15 cents a square foot per year to 50 cents -- a rate that will be unaffordable for many people in the garden. Low-income discounts will also be eliminated. Plots range from 200 to 900 sq. ft.; most are 300-500.

[cg] insurance

2005-10-07 Thread Minifarms
I mentioned to the church where I am a member about building a skate board park for the kids. The first question was What about liability. If we let liability determine what we do, whether a church or a community garden, then we will do nothing. That is the price we pay in a culture

Re: [cg] community garden fee hike

2005-10-07 Thread Grow19
Good grief. The city aims to collect more than $16,000/year from this activity? You didn't say where you are but surely they do not collect this amount from any of their other recreational land uses - tennis, golf, swimming, basketball, walking, dog walking, etc. This is really

RE: [cg] community garden fee hike

2005-10-07 Thread Alliums
Hi, Folks! They reportedly researched the average fee for community gardens (35 to 45 cents per square foot?) to get closer to 'market rate.' First off, ask to see that research. You've got the American Community Garden Association's listserv (representing, as Adam mentioned, THOUSANDS of

Re: [cg] community garden fee hike

2005-10-07 Thread Grow19
Any response from the ACGA board on this? Seems like this is just what ACGA should be jumping all over -- to provide support, analysis, communication with the city leaders, etc. Judy Tiger, DC __ The American Community Gardening

Re: [cg] community garden fee hike

2005-10-07 Thread adam36055
Re: Besides getting lots of warm bodies to the next city council meeting and sending around a petition, any other suggestions for effectively fighting the increase? Success stories? Strategies? Part of the best way to get community support for your garden is to get the story out about the good

[cg] negotiating community garden fee hike

2005-10-07 Thread Grow19
At this point, the group shouldn't be offering to negotiate an increase. But Adam is right that they should discuss it earnestly among themselves and try to arrive at a what-if consensus. The garden should be treated similarly to all other recreational land uses and at this point, the

[cg] Grant Writing

2005-10-07 Thread adam36055
Grant writing. Sorry kiddo, I don't write grants for other groups - mostly lack of time, but learning how to fish is a great thing to learn to do, a necessary skill for any non-for profit organization. First you search the web for organizations that provide grants in your area for parks,

Re: [cg] community garden fee hike

2005-10-07 Thread Sandy Pernitz
Hi all, We averaged up our plot fees here in Seattle and we are only at about 22 cents per square foot but we pay all their water bills, do property management, supply various resources, etc...we also work with a non-profit (p-patch trust) to have plot assistance for those who can not pay

Re: [cg] 6th Street Avenue B Garden responds

2005-10-07 Thread williamhohauser
A response to the self-righteous keeper of the Clinton Gardens. We all have insurance problems in our NYC gardens. But if you keep your garden safe and tidy, and don't leave crap all over the place for people to trip over, and think of yourselves as a public venue, one that's open more than

Re: [cg] 6th Street Avenue B Garden responds

2005-10-07 Thread Adam36055
I'm glad I managed to get a rise out of you on this accessibilty issue, Bill. I ain't the only keeper of the garden -we have 4,999 + others too. :) I know, as a community gardener who has visited 6B on days when gardeners are inside and the gates are locked, to come in and be told, when the

Re: [cg] 6th Street Avenue B Garden responds

2005-10-07 Thread William Hohauser
I'm glad we have taken the level down a notch. One of my main imperatives as garden president for the last two years is to increase community interaction between the garden members and the community. While we do a great job with free events, our garden has historically been poor with other