SE/30 and SCSI

2005-03-24 Thread AT
My SE/30 will now not recognise it's hard disc, nor any other external hard disc. It starts up fine from system 7 Disk Tools floppy. Any ideas? Alistair Templeton. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact

Re: SE/30 and SCSI

2005-03-24 Thread Stuart Bell
On 24 Mar 2005, at 10:00, AT wrote: My SE/30 will now not recognise it's hard disc, nor any other external hard disc. It starts up fine from system 7 Disk Tools floppy. Any ideas? Do the utilities on Disk Tools 'see' the HD, even if it doesn't appear on the desktop? Stuart -- Compact Macs is

Stand-in list nanny needed.

2005-03-24 Thread Stuart Bell
Hi! On Monday I head for San Francisco, followed by Yosemite, Pismo beach (how appropriate), Big Sur, Half Moon Bay (and many points in between) and home again. mostly in an RV. So, I shan't be nannying this list for a couple of weeks, Is there anyone who could keep an eye on it, please? We

Re: SE/30 and SCSI

2005-03-24 Thread AT
On 24 Mar 2005, at 10:00, AT wrote: My SE/30 will now not recognise it's hard disc, nor any other external hard disc. It starts up fine from system 7 Disk Tools floppy. Any ideas? Do the utilities on Disk Tools 'see' the HD, even if it doesn't appear on the desktop? Stuart In a word:No.

Re: Why do you like them?

2005-03-24 Thread Brian Harding
My love for the compacts stem from the design (footprint, design, architecture), but has really grown into the more intangible. Their support of their products, the free stuff (OSes, apps, etc.) and, not in the very least, the great user base such as this list. I just think there's something

Re: Why do you like them?

2005-03-24 Thread Liam Proven
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:42:23 -0500, Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: useable. Well, the 128 512, not so much, but the Plus can still be networked on today's networks and can still communicate with today's machines. It's VERY cool. Just try THAT on a 20-year-old PC! Oh come *on.* Let's not

Re: Why do you like them?

2005-03-24 Thread Eagle
On Mar 24, 2005, at 12:33, Liam Proven wrote: On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:42:23 -0500, Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: useable. Well, the 128 512, not so much, but the Plus can still be networked on today's networks and can still communicate with today's machines. It's VERY cool. Just try THAT on a

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2005-03-24 Thread Stuart Bell
Do as he says, or else! ;-) Thanks, Stuart. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to:

Re: 128/512k, Plus logicboard in SE?

2005-03-24 Thread Tom Lee
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anybody know if I can use a 128/512k or Plus logic board with an SE analogue board? How about a Classic? The answer depends on how much work you intend to do. The signals are electrically compatible, as it turns out. However, it's not just plug and play. You have to

Re: Why do you like them? Mac-PC, iMac

2005-03-24 Thread edmund
Lots of snipping here . . . As I mentioned before, I got into Macs after OS X, then I got interested in the OS's history and got an SE/30, with System 6 System 7 floppies, and who-knows-what on the HD (I forget). OS 10.3 is just unbearable to me. With my Classic II running OS 7.1, I'm back

Re: 128/512k, Plus logicboard in SE?

2005-03-24 Thread woodwynlane
Well, I'll tell you. The SE analogue board should fit in and attach exactly the way a Plus board does. According to Larry Pina's book, the only difference is the v-synch circuitry, which is improved over the Plus (puts an IC on the board). In fact, that's the reason I even thought about the SE

Re: Why do you like them? Mac-PC, iMac

2005-03-24 Thread Dylan McDermond
On Mar 24, 2005, at 2:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any reason why I should stop worrying and love the bomb? Oh, yes, there's plenty of reasons. But, as I'm beginning to see, Classic Mac OS curmudgeons are nearly worse than Windows zombies. There'll be no convincing you no matter

Re: SE/30 Adapter for Daystar Turbo 040

2005-03-24 Thread Luke Brennan
I actually have one of the rare SE/30 specific Daystar PDS adapters. But the price is probably too steep for you to contemplate. Even rarer is the cpu-socket based Daystar. You CAN use alternatives, such as the IIsi adapter or the custom Stratos TwinSpark adapter from artmix.com in Japan.

Re: Why do you like them? Mac-PC, iMac

2005-03-24 Thread Eagle
On Mar 24, 2005, at 17:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lots of snipping here . . . As I mentioned before, I got into Macs after OS X, then I got interested in the OS's history and got an SE/30, with System 6 System 7 floppies, and who-knows-what on the HD (I forget). [...] 5) Any Mac OS that

Re: Why do you like them?

2005-03-24 Thread Peter da Silva
I just think there's something glorious about a Plus with 1Mb and 2 720k floppies doing GUIs _properly_ Except it didn't. Background windows couldn't update. The Amiga 1000, with 256K or 512K and one 880K floppy, could do that. Macintosh was amazingly good given the shortcomings of the 128K

Re: Why do you like them?

2005-03-24 Thread Peter da Silva
I have an original IBM PS/2 Model 80-A21 on my LAN, as a server. I have a PDP-11, an ATT UNIX PC (with System V UNIX and a multitasking GUI in 1985), and sundry other old boxes. My oldest box in production is a Compaq Deskpro 386/20e with 10M RAM and a 110 MB hard disk, running FreeBSD and

Re: Why do you like them? Mini

2005-03-24 Thread Peter da Silva
My point exactly. It's very cool, but it is just a box (despite the fact that I have mini envy). The interface (screen, keyboard, mouse)is elsewhere The keyboard and mouse are elsewhere on the 128K Mac, too. :) And, well, the all-in-one design is cute... I still have two of the original

Re: Why do you like them? Mac-PC, iMac

2005-03-24 Thread edmund
On Mar 24, 2005, at 17:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lots of snipping here . . . As I mentioned before, I got into Macs after OS X, then I got interested in the OS's history and got an SE/30, with System 6 System 7 floppies, and who-knows-what on the HD (I forget). [...] 5) Any Mac OS

Re: Why do you like them? Mac-PC, iMac [a bit OT]

2005-03-24 Thread j lindsey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: good ol' days either. At the company I work for (a 200+ employee newspaper office), we've been experimenting with OS X for months, putting it on one or two machines at a time, truly being afraid to upgrade at times because we could hardly manage a *stable* machine out of

Re: Why do you like them?

2005-03-24 Thread Brandon Davis
Well, my first Mac ...wasn't mine, actually. The story is I was waiting outside the classroom for Oceanography 115 to begin, all proud of myself because I'd managed to type up my notes using WordStar, and print them out using my first PC-XT (well, it was really my second one: I - quite

LC PDS = SE PDS?

2005-03-24 Thread j lindsey
I'm looking into getting an SE (hopefully for writing projects and low end web use), I was wondering if the SE's PDS slot is the same as the LC PDS. Most importantly, will I be able to use an LC PDS ethernet card in an SE FDHD? thanks for any info joey lindsey -- Compact Macs is sponsored by

Re: LC PDS = SE PDS?

2005-03-24 Thread Ken
My Reply follows quote. On 24/03/2005 22:00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'm looking into getting an SE (hopefully for writing projects and low end web use), I was wondering if the SE's PDS slot is the same as the LC PDS. Most importantly, will I be able to use an LC PDS ethernet card in an SE

Re: LC PDS = SE PDS?

2005-03-24 Thread j lindsey
Ken wrote: The SE/30 can use an LC PDS device. The SE slot is not the same. There are specific cards for the SE to give ethernet. Ken Those statements seem to be contradictory. Did you mean to say, The SE/30 canNOT use...? also, I'm looking at an SE FDHD, not an SE/30 (although