Re: [compiz] Wobbly jerkyness
I can confirm this. Move is jumpy, and wobbly is jerky. This makes it impossible to use compiz git right now, at least for me. Joel On 5/2/07, Sam Spilsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Weird, I dont even know your e-mail adress Oh well, forwarded. Anyways for those of you on the compiz list, here is the inital problem. Wobbly is jerky and it seems that the move plugin is the culprit with high CPU usage ___ compiz mailing list compiz@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/compiz
Re: [compiz] Wobbly jerkyness
On 5/2/07, Sam Spilsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Weird, I dont even know your e-mail adress Oh well, forwarded. Anyways for those of you on the compiz list, here is the inital problem. Wobbly is jerky and it seems that the move plugin is the culprit with high CPU usage No progress on this? Am I and Sam the only ones affected in this list? Joel ___ compiz mailing list compiz@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/compiz
Re: [compiz] Wobbly jerkyness
On Sun, 2007-04-29 at 17:54 +0800, Sam Spilsbury wrote: About a month ago, David made a commit to wobbly to the spring engine which has introduced some bugs. They are hard to explain so bear with me. In a sense, the wobbly plugin does not seem as smooth as it used to be and the windows jerk all over the place. For example, I sometimes notice that when I move a large window (around 2/3 of the size of the desktop window), If I moved it down, the top of the window would jerk up then come down quickly. If you want me to explain further then let me know I didn't change anything in the wobbly plugin, I changed how the move plugin works. The jerkyness and high CPU load is actually expected behavior. The high CPU load is caused by the move plugin changing the server-side window attributes to reflect the current position of the window in real-time. The move plugin doesn't have to do this but it's important that things don't break when it does. I've already been able to fix a number of performance issues after making this change and I think there's some more low hanging fruit that can be taken care of quickly. Eventually, I'll make it possible to not have the move plugin update the window attributes in real-time and I can guarantee that performance will be at least as good as before I did these changes to the move plugin. However, before I can make this possible we need to improve the way window animations are performed. What the move plugin was doing before was wrong and I'm not going to change back to that. You're very welcome to help out with testing, profiling and fixing issues related to how the move plugin currently works. If you're not interested in that and if you can't live with the issues and performance of the current move plugin, you're welcome to use an older version of the move plugin with the bad but better performing behavior. - David ___ compiz mailing list compiz@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/compiz
Re: [compiz] Wobbly jerkyness
Weird, I dont even know your e-mail adress Oh well, forwarded. Anyways for those of you on the compiz list, here is the inital problem. Wobbly is jerky and it seems that the move plugin is the culprit with high CPU usage On 5/2/07, Erkin Bahceci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mean, you have been replying only to me (I had thought that was your intention). If you want to reply to the compiz list as well, you should make sure that compiz@lists.freedesktop.org is included in the To: or Cc: field. - Erkin On 5/1/07, Sam Spilsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the compiz list... I think.. On 5/2/07, Erkin Bahceci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may want to reply to the compiz list :) - Erkin On 5/1/07, Sam Spilsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, your right, there is a high cpu usage, with wobbly on and off (But more with wobbly off ironicly) Can a developer for compiz please respond here. (I'm using AIGLX) Perhaps this lag is causing problems with the spring model in wobbly. On 5/1/07, Erkin Bahceci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I mean moving windows lacks responsiveness, it is slow, jerky, and cpu intensive (80-100%), with or without wobbly. With wobbly, the problem I'm talking about causes jerky (and sometimes backward) wobbly movements. Can you try disabling wobbly, opening a new window and moving it continuously while watching the cpu meter? And then restart compiz, try continuously moving the same window, and watch the cpu meter. Do you see any difference in cpu usage? Here, it is as much as 80% compared to 25%, respectively. This is with fglrx on xgl. It might not be a visible issue if you are using aiglx. - Erkin On 4/30/07, Sam Spilsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you mean by *sluggish*? I dont have any problems with the move plugin. What I'm talking about is the wobbly spring engine being wrong or something. It is almost like if I move a window down, one part goes up instead of staying in the same place like there is some kind of resistance only on one side On 4/30/07, Erkin Bahceci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I mean it happens with only Move plugin too (with wobbly disabled), i.e. very high cpu usage and therefore sluggish move. I tried to describe in the bug report. So the problem is not in Wobbly. - Erkin On 4/29/07, Sam Spilsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does it happen to? Regards SmSpillaz On 4/30/07, Erkin Bahceci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I had filed that as a bug: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10790 (The problem happens without wobbly too btw). The bugs might be easier to follow/catch if people report them there or comment on existing ones. I think the bugzilla is not publicized enough. Regards, Erkin On 4/29/07, Sam Spilsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About a month ago, David made a commit to wobbly to the spring engine which has introduced some bugs. They are hard to explain so bear with me. In a sense, the wobbly plugin does not seem as smooth as it used to be and the windows jerk all over the place. For example, I sometimes notice that when I move a large window (around 2/3 of the size of the desktop window), If I moved it down, the top of the window would jerk up then come down quickly. If you want me to explain further then let me know ___ compiz mailing list compiz@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/compiz ___ compiz mailing list compiz@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/compiz
Re: [compiz] Wobbly jerkyness
Hi, I had filed that as a bug: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10790 (The problem happens without wobbly too btw). The bugs might be easier to follow/catch if people report them there or comment on existing ones. I think the bugzilla is not publicized enough. Regards, Erkin On 4/29/07, Sam Spilsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About a month ago, David made a commit to wobbly to the spring engine which has introduced some bugs. They are hard to explain so bear with me. In a sense, the wobbly plugin does not seem as smooth as it used to be and the windows jerk all over the place. For example, I sometimes notice that when I move a large window (around 2/3 of the size of the desktop window), If I moved it down, the top of the window would jerk up then come down quickly. If you want me to explain further then let me know ___ compiz mailing list compiz@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/compiz ___ compiz mailing list compiz@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/compiz
