[computer-go] CGOS down?

2009-01-09 Thread Chaslot G (MICC)
Hi, It seems that CGOS 9x9 is down: it only asks the name, password and command list to the engine. It says on the web interface that games are playing, but this webpage is not refreshing. Cheers, Guillaume ___ computer-go mailing list

[computer-go] Strange Ko

2009-01-09 Thread Mark Boon
The attached game played on CGOS was awarded a win for white due to an illegal move. Black tried to play J3, which according to the game- record is a ko. Nothing could be further from the truth... Rather shocking really. What happened here? Mark 684276.sgf Description: Binary data

Re: [computer-go] Strange Ko

2009-01-09 Thread Jason House
Look at the board position at move 77 (black C9). The move of Black J3 is both a violation of positional superko (used by CGOS) and the more lax situational super ko. On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Mark Boon tesujisoftw...@gmail.com wrote: The attached game played on CGOS was awarded a win

Re: [computer-go] Strange Ko

2009-01-09 Thread unic (Ola Mikael Hansson)
If black plays J3, we would have the same board position as after move 77, thus violating superko. /Ola Mikael Hansson On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Mark Boon tesujisoftw...@gmail.com wrote: The attached game played on CGOS was awarded a win for white due to an illegal move. Black tried to

[computer-go] How to properly implement RAVE?

2009-01-09 Thread Isaac Deutsch
I'm a bit confused about the difference between AMAF and RAVE (if there's one). As far as I understand, with AMAF, you sample in each playout (after it leaves the tree) the moves played (by both players), but only the first move at any position, then you reward all moves played either by a win or

Re: [computer-go] Strange Ko

2009-01-09 Thread Rémi Coulom
Mark Boon wrote: The attached game played on CGOS was awarded a win for white due to an illegal move. Black tried to play J3, which according to the game-record is a ko. Nothing could be further from the truth... Rather shocking really. What happened here? Mark It is a superko. Note that

Re: [computer-go] How to properly implement RAVE?

2009-01-09 Thread Sylvain Gelly
Hi Isaac, in a nutshell RAVE is basically AMAF adapted for Monte Carlo Tree Search. The original paper describing it is http://www.machinelearning.org/proceedings/icml2007/papers/387.pdf and a paper for broader audience can be found here: http://www.lri.fr/~gelly/paper/MoGoNectar.pdf (the picture

Re: [computer-go] How to properly implement RAVE?

2009-01-09 Thread Isaac Deutsch
Hi Sylvain, Thanks for your quick answer. in a nutshell RAVE is basically AMAF adapted for Monte Carlo Tree Search. The original paper describing it is http://www.machinelearning.org/proceedings/icml2007/papers/387.pdf and a paper for broader audience can be found here:

[computer-go] [Fwd: ICGA Events 2009 in Pamplona]

2009-01-09 Thread Jacques Basaldúa
Good news! I am very happy the ICGA has chosen Pamplona. Other destinations (e.g. Beijing) are more attractive, but way out of my reach. I can travel to Pamplona easily, but cannot find the details. The website at http://www.icga.org/ is not updated and the attached .eml file contains 2 .pdf

Re: [computer-go] [Fwd: ICGA Events 2009 in Pamplona]

2009-01-09 Thread Rémi Coulom
Jacques Basaldúa wrote: Can someone place the .pdfs somewhere for download? Thanks. They are in the Game Programming Forum: http://www.grappa.univ-lille3.fr/icga/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=15t=67 Rémi ___ computer-go mailing list

Re: [computer-go] How to properly implement RAVE?

2009-01-09 Thread Sylvain Gelly
Hi Isaac, 2009/1/9 Isaac Deutsch i...@gmx.ch Hi Sylvain, Thanks for your quick answer. in a nutshell RAVE is basically AMAF adapted for Monte Carlo Tree Search. The original paper describing it is http://www.machinelearning.org/proceedings/icml2007/papers/387.pdf and a paper for

Re: [computer-go] [Fwd: ICGA Events 2009 in Pamplona]

2009-01-09 Thread terry mcintyre
I notice that the 2008 icga chess tournament is limited to 8 cores. David Levy's justification seems curious to me. He mentions that an early microcomputer held its own against a mighty mainframe, and that many top chess programs run on PCs, but he wishes to discourage being able to buy the

[computer-go] Re: Hardware limits

2009-01-09 Thread Dave Dyer
I think general hardware limits are good, because they will permit more teams to be competitive without altering the nature of the competition. ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org

Re: [computer-go] [Fwd: ICGA Events 2009 in Pamplona]

2009-01-09 Thread Don Dailey
Had rules like this been in affect in earlier years, where you limit participants to commodity hardware, we would have never seen Cray Blitz, Deep Blue, Bebe, Belle and others that were a very important part of computer chess history. This comes down to whether you are trying to turn this into