Re: [computer-go] Re: Open source real time Go server

2010-01-21 Thread Stefan Kaitschick
As for other things we'd like to see improved, we could build a list. My pet peeve is the KGS score estimator, which is often wildly wrong. I've heard complaints about the implementation of the rules, and some have argued that it is not terribly bot-friendly. A good SE is a terribly difficult

Re: [computer-go] Re: Open source real time Go server

2010-01-21 Thread Stefan Kaitschick
2010/1/19 terry mcintyre terrymcint...@yahoo.com: ( I recall a pro making such an observation; I was willing to accept his expertise on the matter. ) Any pro making such a comment at move 10 is just grand-standing. I have experienced pros making such comments too. You can let such a remark

Re: [computer-go] Re: Open source real time Go server

2010-01-21 Thread Stuart A. Yeates
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:46 AM, Stefan Kaitschick stefan.kaitsch...@hamburg.de wrote: 2010/1/19 terry mcintyre terrymcint...@yahoo.com: ( I recall a pro making such an observation; I was willing to accept his expertise on the matter. ) Any pro making such a comment at move 10 is just

[computer-go] Re: Open source real time Go server

2010-01-21 Thread Jacques Basaldúa
Petr Baudis wrote: This seems like not very productive line of argumentation unless preceded with more exact definitions of strong. My only claim is that it is a hard problem. That is unobjectionable no matter how you define strong (obviously: random strong perfect) I can't understand why

Re: [computer-go] Re: Open source real time Go server

2010-01-21 Thread Petr Baudis
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 08:39:59PM +, Jacques Basaldúa wrote: Petr Baudis wrote: Actually, there is a thread about exactly this on fuego-devel In fact it is not exactly this it is a different approach. The post in fuego-devel tries to determine the status of each point of the board.

Re: [computer-go] Re: Open source real time Go server

2010-01-21 Thread ☢ ☠
Wouldn't one find the correct komi by at worst binary search among komi values? 2010/1/21 Petr Baudis pa...@ucw.cz On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 08:39:59PM +, Jacques Basaldúa wrote: Petr Baudis wrote: Actually, there is a thread about exactly this on fuego-devel In fact it is not

Re: [computer-go] Re: Open source real time Go server

2010-01-21 Thread terry mcintyre
When SE fails, it is often blatantly obvious: a group is dead or in seki, but judged to be alive; or vice versa. ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/

[computer-go] about commercial Zen

2010-01-21 Thread xiefan
hi all, could anyone help give me a link in English to buy the commercial version of Zen? Now I could only find some websites in Japanese, however, I could not read Japanese Fan ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org