Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo Zero SGF - Free Use or Copyright?

2017-10-28 Thread Thomas Rohde
On 2017-10-28 at 16:36, Robert Jasiek wrote: > IMO, intuition does not exist; it is nothing but an excuse for not > understanding subconscious or currently unobservable thinking yet. Can we > speak of human subconscious thinking, please? Uhm, I always thought the short word

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo Zero SGF - Free Use or Copyright?

2017-10-28 Thread Robert Jasiek
On 28.10.2017 11:13, Petri Pitkanen wrote: Exactly verbalized rules lose to pure analysis power. (I think with "verbalised" you mean "codified in writing", with "pure analysis power" you mean "volume of reading, calculation, sampling or NN processing".) Rules are not meant to win or lose

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo Zero SGF - Free Use or Copyright?

2017-10-28 Thread Petri Pitkanen
Exactly verbalized rules lose to pure analysis power. Though much chess intuiton is coded into evaluation function. Buiding analysis trees to alfa-beta pruning BUT in quite differently human woudl do it, just basic idea/ideas are there. Human intuition is trained with endless repetition. Like IM

Re: [Computer-go] Zero is weaker than Master!?

2017-10-28 Thread Xavier Combelle
You are totally right it is not the same curves. according to the reddit post. So I was totally wrong > On 27-10-17 10:15, Xavier Combelle wrote: >> Maybe I'm wrong but both curves for alphago zero looks pretty similar >> except than the figure 3 is the zoom in of figure 6 > The blue curve in

Re: [Computer-go] Zero is weaker than Master!?

2017-10-28 Thread Xavier Combelle
OK I will reread it attentively Le 27/10/2017 à 19:19, Hideki Kato a écrit : > Please read _through_ the paper sequentially. > #I don't have enough skill to describe the reason because > it's not a technical but language issue. > > Hideki > >> I don't understand which element makes you say that