Re: [Computer-go] Fwd: Teaching Deep Convolutional Neural Networks to Play Go

2015-03-16 Thread Aja Huang
Hello Oliver, 2015-03-16 11:58 GMT+00:00 Oliver Lewis ojfle...@yahoo.co.uk: It's impressive that the same network learned to play seven games with just a win/lose signal. It's also interesting that both these teams are in different parts of Google. I assume they are aware of each other's

Re: [Computer-go] Fwd: Teaching Deep Convolutional Neural Networks to Play Go

2015-03-16 Thread hughperkins2
 The important thing is that the games don't have to be played perfectly: They just need to be significantly better than your current model, so you can tweak the model to learn from them. Thats an important incite. I hadnt thought of that.  Maybe could combine with some concept of forgetting,

Re: [Computer-go] Fwd: Teaching Deep Convolutional Neural Networks to Play Go

2015-03-16 Thread Darren Cook
To be honest, what I really want is for it to self-learn,... I wonder if even the world's most powerful AI (i.e. the human brain) could self-learn go to, say, strong dan level? I.e. Give a boy genius a go board, the rules, and two years, but don't give him any books, hints, or the chance to play

Re: [Computer-go] Fwd: Teaching Deep Convolutional Neural Networks to Play Go

2015-03-16 Thread Álvaro Begué
The human brain is not the most powerful AI, because it fails the A test. I suspect bootstrapping is not very hard. I have recently written a Spanish checkers program starting with no knowledge and I got it to play top-human level checkers within a few weeks. You can build a database of games as

Re: [Computer-go] Fwd: Teaching Deep Convolutional Neural Networks to Play Go

2015-03-15 Thread Michael Markefka
I was thinking about bootstrapping possibilities, and wondered whether it would be possible to use a shallower mimic net for positional evaluation playouts from a specific depth on after having generated positions with a certain branching factor that typically allows the actual pro move to be

[Computer-go] Fwd: Teaching Deep Convolutional Neural Networks to Play Go

2015-03-14 Thread Hugh Perkins
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Hugh Perkins hughperk...@gmail.com wrote: - finally, started to get a signal, on the kgsgo data :-) Not a very strong signal, but a signal :-) : test accuracy: 364/1 3.64% Up to 35.1% test accuracy for next-move-prediction task now, still 9% lower than