RE: [computer-go] Interesting endgame case

2009-08-15 Thread Magnus Persson
even at a million playouts (28 seconds) it's only 61%. From: computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org [mailto:computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Brian Sheppard Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 8:13 AM To: computer-go@computer-go.org Subject: [computer-go] Interesting endgame

Re: [computer-go] Interesting endgame case

2009-08-15 Thread Gunnar Farnebäck
Petr Baudis wrote: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A - - O - - - - - - B X X X O X - - - - C O O X O X X - - - D O - O X X - X X - E - O O O X X O X X F - X O - X O O O X G - X O - X O O - O H O X O - X X O O - J - - - O X - X O - O to play > > I don't see

Re: [computer-go] Interesting endgame case

2009-08-15 Thread Petr Baudis
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 09:13:02AM -0600, Brian Sheppard wrote: > >assuming komi 7.5 and Chinese rule, playing at J3 white will win. After J3, > >white has 35. It only needs to win the ko or takes two dames. If black > fills > >the dame, it loses the ko. If it fills the ko, white can take two dames

RE: [computer-go] Interesting endgame case

2009-08-15 Thread David Fotland
009 8:13 AM To: computer-go@computer-go.org Subject: [computer-go] Interesting endgame case >assuming komi 7.5 and Chinese rule, playing at J3 white will win. After J3, >white has 35. It only needs to win the ko or takes two dames. If black fills >the dame, it loses the ko. If it fills

[computer-go] Interesting endgame case

2009-08-15 Thread Brian Sheppard
>assuming komi 7.5 and Chinese rule, playing at J3 white will win. After J3, >white has 35. It only needs to win the ko or takes two dames. If black fills >the dame, it loses the ko. If it fills the ko, white can take two dames. Yes, Chinese and 7.5. I basically figured that J3 was just anoth

RE: [computer-go] Interesting endgame case

2009-08-14 Thread David Fotland
Message- > From: computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org [mailto:computer-go- > boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Brian Sheppard > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 9:46 AM > To: computer-go@computer-go.org > Subject: [computer-go] Interesting endgame case > > 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

Re: [computer-go] Interesting endgame case

2009-08-14 Thread Go Fast
assuming komi 7.5 and Chinese rule, playing at J3 white will win. After J3, white has 35. It only needs to win the ko or takes two dames. If black fills the dame, it loses the ko. If it fills the ko, white can take two dames. On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Nick Wedd wrote: > In message <18d95

Re: [computer-go] Interesting endgame case

2009-08-14 Thread Nick Wedd
In message <18d95a4b0a2748e39855f882ed6ce...@inspirone1705>, Brian Sheppard writes 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A - - O - - - - - - B X X X O X - - - - C O O X O X X - - - D O - O X X - X X - E - O O O X X O X X F - X O - X O O O X G - X O - X O O - O H O X O - X X O O - J - - - O X - X O - O to play I a

[computer-go] Interesting endgame case

2009-08-14 Thread Brian Sheppard
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A - - O - - - - - - B X X X O X - - - - C O O X O X X - - - D O - O X X - X X - E - O O O X X O X X F - X O - X O O O X G - X O - X O O - O H O X O - X X O O - J - - - O X - X O - O to play I analyzed this position as a loss for O, as follows: O has 22 points at lef