I analyzed these positions with Valkyria, and it has no problems
seeing what is happening in these positions. Also going back some
moves valkyria for example proposes Ws8 instead of Wp12 for move 218,
which clearly kills the black group and reduces it no eyes, and showes
that Valkyria does
I appreciate that Go programs are complex and not easy to tune.
Thinking over Magnus' excellent automated method ( play many games, allow early
resignation, inspect long games ), and my own experiences, I'd like to suggest
an additional method: when a game ends with a large loss, determine
Many faces will show group status, but with letters on the stones, not
colors.
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[mailto:computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of terry mcintyre
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Subject: Re: [computer-go] Roadmap 2020
For example1, Many Faces' Game Score Graph shows the fight is over around
move 208.
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Subject: Re: [computer-go] Roadmap 2020
2009/4/23 terry mcintyre terrymcint...@yahoo.com:
Programs which get semeai and seki right every time might be a few stones
stronger. They'd certainly be more valuable as teaching tools. In the game
above, a stronger program would have exploited my earlier weakness; this
would have encouraged
I haven't got a ladder example at the moment, but here's an instance where
Leela does not realize it is in terrible trouble.
I ( with my 8 kyu AGA rating) know with certainty by move 223 (T5) that Black
has captured a large white group. A stronger player could read this out sooner
than I. This
I ( with my 8 kyu AGA rating) know with certainty by move 223 (T5)
that Black has captured a large white group. A stronger player could
read this out sooner than I. This fight is too big to lose for either
side; nothing else on the board matters.
Yes! I use Many Faces and GoGui/Mogo for
I've only looked at the first game, but it does seem very interesting to
analyze. The white group around H2 is near death as well and I think
Leela's evaluation considered that group to be threatened. Once that is
solidly alive, it does switch to the semeai on the right. I probably
would not
