2008/7/28 Ray Tayek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 07:53 PM 7/27/2008, you wrote:
The traditional programs are around 10 kyu, but the new ones are 2 to 4
kyu,
at least on KGS. I've seen some handicap games against dan players that
are
consistent with these ratings.
wow. that's impressive. can
2008/7/28 David Fotland [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The traditional programs are around 10 kyu, but the new ones are 2 to 4 kyu,
at least on KGS. I've seen some handicap games against dan players that are
consistent with these ratings.
It wouldn't surprise me to see 1 dan from an MC program before
My question isn't about how strong programs are now, or what is the
definition of a dan, or what you think will happen in the future. The
question is: what do you need to give your current 19x19 program another
6-ish ranks in strength (or 6+N where N is the distance between your
program and the
I'm not the author of a strong program, but I'll throw another item into
the list: more incentive. For many, computer go competes for time with
many other hobbies and perhaps even a day job.
The big Ing prize brought many people into computer-go, all working in
parallel, competing, to make
Personally, I think the next big strength jump would come from combining
localized searches/sequences with the global search's MC playouts.
Curiously, my guess is the opposite: using UCT as the node evaluation in
a more traditional alpha-beta searcher. (It's been mentioned a few times
here but
Various branches of the US government (including NIST) have developed
a very successful approach to funding research. Set up a measurable
competition (such as we already have with CGOS) and then fund research
groups through a series of rounds, with the results of each funding
round being
For example, CrazyStone [1k]and MoGoBot1 [2k].
i found and played a few bots on kgs. can you tell me the name of yours and
some of the stronger ones?
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At 12:43 AM 7/28/2008, you wrote:
2008/7/28 Ray Tayek mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 07:53 PM 7/27/2008, you wrote:
The traditional programs are around 10 kyu, but the new ones are 2
to 4 kyu,...
wow. that's impressive. can one buy these or just play the on kgs?
You can
You can download for free an old version of MoGo (which reached 2k on KGS
on a 4 CPU machine) at:
http://www.lri.fr/~gelly/MoGo_Download.htmhttp://www.lri.fr/%7Egelly/MoGo_Download.htm
http://www.lri.fr/~gelly/MoGo_Download.htmhttp://www.lri.fr/%7Egelly/MoGo_Download.htm
the exe just sits
Oops. Please ignore ...
AvK
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the $500K/year to hire an expert team of programmers to incorporate
everyone's source code into an open-source framework is pretty
wasteful.
just let people dig through the code on their own. it'd be good enough,
and save $500K/year.
there's no real reason to give out the hardware, either,
On Jul 28, 2008, at 5:04 AM, Darren Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Personally, I think the next big strength jump would come from
combining
localized searches/sequences with the global search's MC playouts.
Curiously, my guess is the opposite: using UCT as the node
evaluation in
a more
Hi Mark,
I like your basic idea very much (minor details aside of course.) I
think 2 things have been largely responsible for the sudden increase in
the strength of computer go programs:
1. Nicks KGS tournaments.
2. CGOS
And your idea is an extension and improvement of these 2
Hi Don,
Yes, there would be as many different approaches as people.
I also agree that the KGS tournaments and CGOS have contributed a
lot. But don't underestimate the influence of idea-sharing. Both GNU-
Go and the many research papers about UCT/MC have contributed a lot,
both by
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