Re: [computer-go] Crazy Stone vs KCC Igo

2007-10-12 Thread Rémi Coulom
David Doshay wrote: Why would you use 6 of the 8 cores and not all 8? Cheers, David It is the desktop machine of a colleague. He was running one long computation on one core, and using it for mail, web browsing, etc. So I left 2 cores to him. Rémi __

[computer-go] CGOS: Running a Java engine from Windows

2007-10-12 Thread Peter McKenzie
I just went through the process of getting my engine (Gonzo) up and running on CGOS. I thought I'd share the experience as it wasn't exactly plain sailing and others who may encounter similar problems in the future may benefit. My engine is written in Java and I run it from a Windows box. When I

Re: [computer-go] Former Deep Blue Research working on Go

2007-10-12 Thread Ray Tayek
At 04:31 PM 10/12/2007, you wrote: How do I find the ones narrated in English? not sure, i just found these things/ Do they exist? yes The closest I could find was this one which is almost unwatchable. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uArhCnJu7LM all of the ones by her that i have seen a

Re: [computer-go] Crazy Stone vs KCC Igo (was: best approach forward)

2007-10-12 Thread terry mcintyre
From: David Doshay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Why would you use 6 of the 8 cores and not all 8? ... Perhaps it was the challenge of doing it with two cores tied behind his back? On 12, Oct 2007, at 3:41 PM, Hiroshi Yamashita wrote: > I add some info about this match. > > Crazy Stone ran on Quad Co

Re: [computer-go] Crazy Stone vs KCC Igo (was: best approach forward)

2007-10-12 Thread David Doshay
Why would you use 6 of the 8 cores and not all 8? Cheers, David On 12, Oct 2007, at 3:41 PM, Hiroshi Yamashita wrote: I add some info about this match. Crazy Stone ran on Quad Core (3.0Hz) x2 Mac, and used 6 core out of 8 core. Remi said its speed was 30,000 playout/s on it. (at least in

Re: [computer-go] Former Deep Blue Research working on Go

2007-10-12 Thread Chris Fant
How do I find the ones narrated in English? Do they exist? The closest I could find was this one which is almost unwatchable. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uArhCnJu7LM On 10/12/07, Ray Tayek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 07:36 AM 10/12/2007, you wrote: > >Chris Fant wrote: > > > Ho can I fi

Re: [computer-go] Former Deep Blue Research working on Go

2007-10-12 Thread Ray Tayek
At 07:36 AM 10/12/2007, you wrote: Chris Fant wrote: > Ho can I find Go vids on youtube? Searching for "go" obviously does nothing. > > Atari was also a good keyword here. There it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt1FvPxmmfE searching for: go baduk weiqi returns a bunch. --- vice-chair

Re: [computer-go] best approach forward

2007-10-12 Thread Hiroshi Yamashita
Hi, Thanks Remi for posting detail result. I add some info about this match. Crazy Stone ran on Quad Core (3.0Hz) x2 Mac, and used 6 core out of 8 core. Remi said its speed was 30,000 playout/s on it. (at least in first game) KCConGUI is a commercial version of "Ginsei Igo 7" that is sold in Jap

Re: [computer-go] best approach forward

2007-10-12 Thread Chris Fant
Not so crazy after all.:) On 10/12/07, David Fotland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I looked at all the games and scored them with Many Faces and I agree with > the result, 14 wins, 5 losses, and one unfinished early. It looks like > Crazy stone is stronger than any traditional program at 19x1

RE: [computer-go] best approach forward

2007-10-12 Thread David Fotland
I looked at all the games and scored them with Many Faces and I agree with the result, 14 wins, 5 losses, and one unfinished early. It looks like Crazy stone is stronger than any traditional program at 19x19. David > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [computer-go] best approach forward

2007-10-12 Thread Rémi Coulom
Ian Osgood wrote: On Oct 11, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Rémi Coulom wrote: In case nobody noticed, Crazy Stone won a match against KCC Igo this summer, with 15 wins and 4 losses. The match was organized by Hiroshi Yamashita. The games can be found in the KGS archives. http://www.gokgs.com/gameArchiv

Re: [computer-go] best approach forward

2007-10-12 Thread Ian Osgood
On Oct 11, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Rémi Coulom wrote: In case nobody noticed, Crazy Stone won a match against KCC Igo this summer, with 15 wins and 4 losses. The match was organized by Hiroshi Yamashita. The games can be found in the KGS archives. http://www.gokgs.com/gameArchives.jsp?user=kccon

Re: [computer-go] Former Deep Blue Research working on Go

2007-10-12 Thread steve uurtamo
that just kills me every time i see the expression on yasuhiro's (?) face. losing the 5 stones is one thing, losing the second eye is brutal. s. - Original Message From: Tapani Raiko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: computer-go Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 10:36:01 AM Subject: Re: [computer-

Re: [computer-go] Former Deep Blue Research working on Go

2007-10-12 Thread Peter Drake
Or weiqi. Peter Drake http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ On Oct 12, 2007, at 7:29 AM, steve uurtamo wrote: try baduk! s. - Original Message From: Chris Fant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: computer-go Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 10:04:23 AM Subject: Re: [computer-go] Former Deep Blue Rese

Re: [computer-go] Former Deep Blue Research working on Go

2007-10-12 Thread Tapani Raiko
Chris Fant wrote: > Ho can I find Go vids on youtube? Searching for "go" obviously does nothing. > > Atari was also a good keyword here. There it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt1FvPxmmfE -- Tapani Raiko, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, +358 50 5225750 http://www.cis.hut.fi/praiko/ _

Re: [computer-go] Former Deep Blue Research working on Go

2007-10-12 Thread steve uurtamo
try baduk! s. - Original Message From: Chris Fant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: computer-go Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 10:04:23 AM Subject: Re: [computer-go] Former Deep Blue Research working on Go Ho can I find Go vids on youtube? Searching for "go" obviously does nothing. On 10/12/

Re: [computer-go] Former Deep Blue Research working on Go

2007-10-12 Thread Chris Fant
Ho can I find Go vids on youtube? Searching for "go" obviously does nothing. On 10/12/07, steve uurtamo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Steve, > > > > So this doesn't get too lengthy I'll remove the stuff I'm not responding > > to. > > no problem. > > > But why would it suddenly go "log" at so

Re: [computer-go] Former Deep Blue Research working on Go

2007-10-12 Thread steve uurtamo
> Hi Steve, > > So this doesn't get too lengthy I'll remove the stuff I'm not responding > to. no problem. > But why would it suddenly go "log" at some point nearby? This is the > same superstition people had in computer chess for decades! Everyone > had this gut feeling based on nothing what

Re: [computer-go] Re: Former Deep Blue Research working on Go

2007-10-12 Thread terry mcintyre
From: Dave Dyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Considering how monte carlo actually works, I think it's plausible > to argue that it works best where the distance to endgame is small. > For a 19x19 board, the playing speed may be only a factor of 4 worse, > but the effective learning speed for an opening p

Re: [computer-go] best approach forward

2007-10-12 Thread alain Baeckeroot
Le jeudi 11 octobre 2007 21:15, Don Dailey a écrit : > I appreciate the vote of confidence, but my point is that if you want > some kind of "certified" rating CGOS is not a good choice. You can run > anything on CGOS and claim anything. You could even substitute a > strong human player, if you

Re: [computer-go] best approach forward

2007-10-12 Thread Heikki Levanto
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 01:32:44PM -0400, Don Dailey wrote: > > But what I had in mind in some kind of ratings agency where the > conditions are controlled and everything is completely open. > > Here is what is required: > > 1. Someone with at least 2 equal DEDICATED computers plus a server. >

Re: [computer-go] best approach forward

2007-10-12 Thread alain Baeckeroot
Le jeudi 11 octobre 2007 22:31, Christoph Birk a écrit : > On Thu, 11 Oct 2007, Don Dailey wrote: > > But we had a 19x19 server and it WAS NOT interesting. Nobody seemed > > willing to play on it. > > Maybe that has changed now. > It was not interesting because there was only one competitive > pr

Re: [computer-go] Re: Former ... inhuman MC/UCT style

2007-10-12 Thread alain Baeckeroot
Le vendredi 12 octobre 2007 06:10, Dave Dyer a écrit : > > Considering how monte carlo actually works, I think it's plausible > to argue that it works best where the distance to endgame is small. > And for a player against Mogo this is very un-human feature on 19x19. - Fuseki is done agaisnt a 1