Nick Wedd wrote:
CrazyStonepossible possible
This is yes from my point of view. It all depends on the availability
of an operator.
What is the komi for the 9x9 tournament ? I would prefer 7.5 because it
is also the komi of the Computer Olympiad.
Thanks,
Rémi
I've been working on combining UCT search with Many Faces for about 6 months
now. Since I'm entering the computer go tournaments at the go congresses, I
decided to go public on the go servers.
Mfgo12-0617 is Many Faces' engine with UCT search, running on a single 2.3
GHz CPU. It seems
It irks me a little that Linux people refuse to consider porting their
programs to Windows :) With cygwin, it's pretty easy to port Linux
programs. Since these programs work on CGOS they have a gtp interface, so
they don't even need cygwin. Just recompile using gcc and use a free GTP
windows
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That always irks me when I hear this kind of thing. The world is basically
windows chauvinistic and it's common to find little consideration given to
any other platform.
Did you know that you can create your own linux
I don't have access to windows machines to test and I don't know anything
about windows. I can barely use it. Although when my Go bot is complete, I
would welcome anyone who wants to port it for me. :)-George
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:29 PM, David Fotland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
It irks me
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes
Erik van der Werf wrote:
I never said yes. At this point it is rather unlikely that Steenvreter
will participate. Steenvreter only runs on linux. Since the machines
in Leksand run windows and remote computation is not allowed
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Jason House
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
I don't own a computer with Windows on it, and that adds significant
headache. It's hard to convince friends/work to install cygwin for this kind
of purpose. Portability between Linux flavors is not guaranteed. For
Don Dailey wrote:
I also feel for the Mac people and also people that have built
programs that run on networks of workstations or other potential
supercomputer programs that would not be able to participate.
- Don
Although I am one of the participants with access to non-conventional
On Jul 17, 2008, at 1:12 PM, Álvaro Begué [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Jason House
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
I don't own a computer with Windows on it, and that adds significant
headache. It's hard to convince friends/work to install cygwin for
this kind
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Jason House
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jul 17, 2008, at 1:12 PM, Álvaro Begué [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Jason House
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
I don't own a computer with Windows on it, and that adds significant
David Fotland wrote:
It irks me a little that Linux people refuse to consider porting their
programs to Windows :) With cygwin, it's pretty easy to port Linux
programs. Since these programs work on CGOS they have a gtp interface, so
they don't even need cygwin. Just recompile using gcc and
I know how to port to windows.I can help you with this.
- Don
George Dahl wrote:
I don't have access to windows machines to test and I don't know anything
about windows. I can barely use it. Although when my Go bot is complete, I
would welcome anyone who wants to port it for me.
Dave Dyer wrote:
At 09:29 AM 7/17/2008, David Fotland wrote:
It irks me a little that Linux people refuse to consider porting their
programs to Windows :) With cygwin, it's pretty easy to port Linux
programs.
Isn't it the case that Cygwin is no help if the program has a GUI.
Álvaro Begué wrote:
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Jason House
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
I don't own a computer with Windows on it, and that adds significant
headache. It's hard to convince friends/work to install cygwin for this kind
of purpose. Portability between Linux flavors
terry mcintyre wrote:
A cygwin port can't really be considered a windows application since it
requires that the windows user install cygwin. This is not for the faint of heart.
There are many good reasons why some people develop on Linux. Porting between Linux and Windows is not trivial.
Rémi Coulom wrote:
Don Dailey wrote:
I also feel for the Mac people and also people that have built
programs that run on networks of workstations or other potential
supercomputer programs that would not be able to participate. - Don
Although I am one of the participants with access to
All,
Another option is to use a VM, MS's Virtual PC (free), VMWare's offering (free
for non-commercial use) or any of the flavors of the open source Xen.
Basically, you can set up an install of whatever target environment you use as
a client OS. And then install and configure all you need and
My program runs on a cluster ... no way around that.
Cheers,
David
On 17, Jul 2008, at 12:31 PM, Dave Dyer wrote:
One possibility is to use one of the VM products that are available
to host unix on a windows machine, or windows on a unix machine.
VirtualBox looks particilarly promising,
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008, David Fotland wrote:
Not trolling for flames, just expressing an opinion. If someone is not
willing to put in one day effort to port from Linux to Windows, why should
they expect anyone else to put in one day effort to make Linux available as
a platform? It seems Linux
What is the best way to compile for 64 Windows if you don't have a 64
bit windows OS?
I want to compile my chess program for 64 bit windows (it uses 64 bit
data structures and is actually 2X faster on 64 bit linux over 32 bit
linux.)
I have seen mingw64 but have heard that it is very
Seems David instigated a nice little platform war :)
Oh, platform discussions are sooo 1990s. Don't you guys use a
platform independent language yet?
OK, time to duck...
Mark
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David Doshay wrote:
Had I known that I might have participated. I thought I would have
to ship my cluster, and with my previous traveling cluster I thought
it would never get past the US airport security ... is was such a mass
of wires and parts that it hardly even looked like a computer.
Christoph Birk wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008, David Fotland wrote:
Not trolling for flames, just expressing an opinion. If someone is not
willing to put in one day effort to port from Linux to Windows, why
should
they expect anyone else to put in one day effort to make Linux
available as
a
--- On Thu, 7/17/08, David Doshay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: David Doshay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My program runs on a cluster ... no way around that.
David, you're just not taking full advantage of Virtualization ... simply
emulate multiple VMs on a single computer; there may be a performance
Don Dailey wrote:
But all of this presents another issue - most of us don't like to be
forced to work in another environment. It really is far more logical
to accommodate the programmers when it is not so difficult to do so
and especially when it requires much less total effort than making
On 17, Jul 2008, at 1:34 PM, terry mcintyre wrote:
--- On Thu, 7/17/08, David Doshay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: David Doshay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My program runs on a cluster ... no way around that.
David, you're just not taking full advantage of Virtualization ...
simply emulate
On 17, Jul 2008, at 1:02 PM, Rémi Coulom wrote:
David Doshay wrote:
Had I known that I might have participated. I thought I would have
to ship my cluster, and with my previous traveling cluster I thought
it would never get past the US airport security ... is was such a
mass
of wires and
All,
What's available in terms of a quality Go game player/client/recorder for
mobile phones? I have a Windows Mobile 6 phone (ATT Tilt - 8925) and would
like to be able to play the occasional casual game, be able to connect and play
with someone else on their mobile phone or desktop PC and to
Mark Boon wrote:
Seems David instigated a nice little platform war :)
Oh, platform discussions are sooo 1990s. Don't you guys use a platform
independent language yet?
OK, time to duck...
I'm not going to throw anything at you.But you should duck anyone in
case something I throw at
Of course C can be more or less platform independent if you take some care.
Purely for engine code, that's true. Standard windows has APIs
that are nearly compatible with xxux for command line initialization
and ordinary file and network operations.
If your program has ANY gui at all
Rémi Coulom wrote:
Don Dailey wrote:
But all of this presents another issue - most of us don't like to be
forced to work in another environment. It really is far more
logical to accommodate the programmers when it is not so difficult to
do so and especially when it requires much less
David Doshay wrote:
On 17, Jul 2008, at 1:34 PM, terry mcintyre wrote:
--- On Thu, 7/17/08, David Doshay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: David Doshay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My program runs on a cluster ... no way around that.
David, you're just not taking full advantage of Virtualization
I didn't mean to start a war. I was reacting to the word chauvinistic
which to me implies a willful, unfair bias. I use linux and Windows. I
ship Windows products solely because the installed base is much higher. If
I were to set up a tournament and only had time to support one platform, it
The apps will arrive. Toshiba plans to sell a laptop with a modified form of
the Cell processor; it has 4 SPEs which do quite a job of handling blu-ray DVDs
and also use the laptop's webcam to allow user movement and facial expressions
to control the computer.
( I can just see it - user
Ahh, no wonder I have 40 unread messages from today. Thanks, David. :)
David Fotland wrote:
It irks me a little that Linux people refuse to consider porting their
programs to Windows :) With cygwin, it's pretty easy to port Linux
programs. Since these programs work on CGOS they have a gtp
I strongly agree with Remi. Nick is going out of his way to allow people to
enter, and putting a lot of time to set this up. He deserves praise and
thanks, not complaints.
David
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rémi
Well, I only wanted to participate in 9x9. My program is strong enough
to not need help from amateurs.
For 19x19, if anyone really wants to cheat it is still relatively
easy, even under the current restrictions.
Personally I think strength of the programs should be irrelevant. The
organizers
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008, Dave Dyer wrote:
If your program has ANY gui at all though, you're pretty much screwed.
Mac Windows and Linux GUIs are about as far apart as any three platforms
can be. There are lots of compatibility solutions, including your
choice of platform independent languages; but
Don't forget that gaming PCs are some of the highest bang-for-the-buck computers that you can get. And games are already taking advantage of many cores (as
many as they can get?) due to the highly competitive market.
David Doshay wrote:
On 17, Jul 2008, at 1:34 PM, terry mcintyre wrote:
Hello,
I am trying to implement a new influence function in GNU Go version 3.6.
I have two questions about this issue.
The first question is how to prove the new influence function is better the old
one.
I believe it can be said the new influence function is better if the new GNU Go
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