Re: [computer-go] Lockless hash table and other parallel search ideas

2008-09-10 Thread Don Dailey
The rules are exactly the same for 9x9 as for 19x19. The boardsize is different and that changes the game some. I would suggest that if a top go player plays a game of chess immediately after first learning the rules, he would lose very badly to even mediocre players or even advanced

Re: [computer-go] Lockless hash table and other parallel search ideas

2008-09-10 Thread Hideki Kato
I'm not sure about the strength of professional players on 9x9 but basically agree with Don. Of course, there are no definition what Go is. So, I'd just like to introduce some in Japan. - Meien O 9p is radical in some sense. He wrote in his book that Go is already unified in the sense that

Re: [computer-go] Lockless hash table and other parallel search ideas

2008-09-10 Thread terry mcintyre
It is true that a pro would probably do rather well against a moderate amateur at 9x9 go, but nonetheless, the pro has a great deal of knowledge which is specific to 19x19 go. Several authors have very recently mentioned that their programs have to be tuned to play well at 9x9 go; important

Re: [computer-go] Lockless hash table and other parallel search ideas

2008-09-10 Thread Olivier Teytaud
- There had been a TV program of professional 9x9 Go for years (some member of this list have the records of the games played in this program). Takemiya 9p and Yuki 9p were the strongest. I'm afraid the answer is no, but: are these records free and available somewhere ? Thanks for your

Re: [computer-go] Lockless hash table and other parallel search ideas

2008-09-10 Thread Erik van der Werf
Maybe these are the same? http://gobase.org/9x9/ Erik On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Olivier Teytaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - There had been a TV program of professional 9x9 Go for years (some member of this list have the records of the games played in this program). Takemiya 9p and

Re: [computer-go] Lockless hash table and other parallel search ideas

2008-09-10 Thread Vincent Diepeveen
On Sep 10, 2008, at 2:12 PM, Don Dailey wrote: The rules are exactly the same for 9x9 as for 19x19. The boardsize is different and that changes the game some. I would suggest that if a top go player plays a game of chess immediately after first learning the rules, he would lose very badly

Re: [computer-go] Lockless hash table and other parallel search ideas

2008-09-10 Thread Hideki Kato
Erik van der Werf: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Maybe these are the same? http://gobase.org/9x9/ Yes but a part. Unfortunatelly, whole records is temporary not available. Following is the reason (and history) which I can remember now. All records were published (but not sold) in a few booklets. Dr.

Re: [computer-go] Lockless hash table and other parallel search ideas

2008-09-10 Thread Ian Osgood
On Sep 10, 2008, at 8:27 AM, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: Note that computer-go has one big advantage over computer-chess; because there is little sales possible to achieve, there is little money at stake, that gives the advantage that the programmers at least communicate with each other in a

Re: [computer-go] Lockless hash table and other parallel search ideas

2008-09-10 Thread Don Dailey
Hi Vincent, What does this possibly have to do with me? But we must correct you here in case you no longer see yourself as a beginner or as an advanced beginner. Directly after learning the games of chess, a strong go player will be able to win from you. Strategically and