Re: [Computer-go] FineArt/JuEZy plays on CGOS!

2017-07-18 Thread Hideki Kato
CGOS 19x19 uses GNU Go v3.7.10 as the anchor, rated 1800. Best, Hideki Nick Wedd: : >Hi Magnus, > >Thank you for the information. I don't know how to interpret it. Is there >any relationship between these two lists of Elo

[Computer-go] What architecture behind Golois2 KGS 7dan ?

2017-07-18 Thread Patrick Bardou via Computer-go
Hi, Can anyone (starting with their author maybe) comment on the go programs playing on KGS as the various "Golois" versions ? In particular, I noticed that Golois2 KGS rank recently jumped from a solid 1dan to a solid 6dan (actually now in the low 7dan in fast games, 15"/move time

Re: [Computer-go] FineArt/JuEZy plays on CGOS!

2017-07-18 Thread Detlef Schmicker
Hi Nick best info I have is: http://computer-go.org/pipermail/computer-go/2016-June/009444.html http://computer-go.org/pipermail/computer-go/2016-February/008638.html Detlef Am 18.07.2017 um 18:20 schrieb Nick Wedd: > Hi Magnus, > > Thank you for the information. I don't know how to

Re: [Computer-go] FineArt/JuEZy plays on CGOS!

2017-07-18 Thread Nick Wedd
Hi Magnus, Thank you for the information. I don't know how to interpret it. Is there any relationship between these two lists of Elo ratings? http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/19x19/bayes.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_ranks_and_ratings Best, Nick On 17 July 2017 at 12:40,

Re: [Computer-go] purpose of zero-filled feature planes in CNN

2017-07-18 Thread Hideki Kato
AlphaGo's zero plane of the policy network is used as the color feature for the value network (Extended Data Table 2, page 31). These networks share the same architecture so that the value network can be initialized by the policy network before training. Hideki Brian Lee:

Re: [Computer-go] purpose of zero-filled feature planes in CNN

2017-07-18 Thread Álvaro Begué
I agree with you. It makes no sense. You'll take whatever linear combinations you want and they'll all be zero. Álvaro. On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 6:53 AM, Brian Lee wrote: > I've been wondering about something I've seen in a few papers (AlphaGo's > paper, Cazenave's

Re: [Computer-go] purpose of zero-filled feature planes in CNN

2017-07-18 Thread valkyria
Hi, my 2 cent: I think it is more or less redundant for the border. Alphago has a plane for black, white and empty. So a border point is definitely different anyway since it will have no features set in any plane. But all points on the board with has a 1 set in one of the three b/w/e-planes.

Re: [Computer-go] purpose of zero-filled feature planes in CNN

2017-07-18 Thread Vincent Richard
It does, and for the exact same reason than a plan filled with 1. You have a lot of bias inside your networks so whatever the input you give, you can be sure it will be transformed, be it a plan full of 0 or a plan full of 1. As you said, it helps the network to keep the track of the

[Computer-go] purpose of zero-filled feature planes in CNN

2017-07-18 Thread Brian Lee
I've been wondering about something I've seen in a few papers (AlphaGo's paper, Cazenave's resnet policy architecture), which is the presence of an input plane filled with 0s. The input features also typically include a plane of 1s, which makes sense to me - zero-padding before a convolution