[Computer-go] WIRED is reading our list
Hi, Tom Simonite, who is writing for WIRED, seems to be following our list. At least he contacted me after my posting from Saturday, and included my statements in an article: https://www.wired.com/story/tencent-software-beats-go-champ-showing-chinas-ai-gains/ One small correction: I am NOT a go expert (indeed my rank, mostly inactive, is about 18-kyu); but I feel more competent on computer go questions ;-) Ingo. > Gesendet: Samstag, 20. Januar 2018 um 07:50 Uhr > Von: "Ingo Althöfer" <3-hirn-ver...@gmx.de> > [Computer-go] Breakthrough: FineArt beating Ke Jie with 2 Handicap Stones > > Hello in the round, > > it seems that Chinese company Tencent with their > Go project FineArt has achieved a fantastic breakthrough: ... ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] Zen giving handicap against pro players
Normal handicap games with 0.5 komi favor Black by only half a stone/grade compensation (so if there is a full grade difference in strength White still has an advantage). Two handicap stones with normal komi just corrects for one stone/grade strength difference (just like one handicap stone with reverse komi). So, if this is true, these results are not as impressive as what most people would consider for 2-stone handicap games.. On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 2:06 PM, "Ingo Althöfer" <3-hirn-ver...@gmx.de> wrote: > Dear Hideki, > > > >So, were the handicap games played at "normal" komi values > > >(6,5 or 7,5 points) ? > > > > No, but "standard" 0.5 pts. Zen supports very wide range of > > komi; about -20 to +30 (mainly for the users of > > Tencho-no-Igo). > > that is very interesting information. > In particular, because from the sgf of FineArt's handicap > games I read that they had komi=7.5 (opr 6.5) in "all" > their handicap games. > > My impression was they needed this exact komi > value to "please" their neural net. > > Ingo. > ___ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] Zen giving handicap against pro players
Dear Hideki, > >So, were the handicap games played at "normal" komi values > >(6,5 or 7,5 points) ? > > No, but "standard" 0.5 pts. Zen supports very wide range of > komi; about -20 to +30 (mainly for the users of > Tencho-no-Igo). that is very interesting information. In particular, because from the sgf of FineArt's handicap games I read that they had komi=7.5 (opr 6.5) in "all" their handicap games. My impression was they needed this exact komi value to "please" their neural net. Ingo. ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
