Re: [computer-go] 13x13 study. Time and memory

2008-02-22 Thread Alain Baeckeroot
Le jeudi 21 février 2008, Don Dailey a écrit : If you look at the table you will notice that going from level 4 to level 11 (which is 7 doublings and should take 128X longer) only takes 59.43 X longer. So if we plot 9X9 rank vs time, maybe we have a straight line :) ELO vs size of the tree

Re: [computer-go] 13x13 study. Time and memory

2008-02-22 Thread Sylvain Gelly
2008/2/22, Alain Baeckeroot [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Le jeudi 21 février 2008, Don Dailey a écrit : If you look at the table you will notice that going from level 4 to level 11 (which is 7 doublings and should take 128X longer) only takes 59.43 X longer. So if we plot 9X9 rank vs time,

Re: [computer-go] 13x13 study. Time and memory

2008-02-22 Thread Alain Baeckeroot
Le vendredi 22 février 2008, Sylvain Gelly a écrit : 2008/2/22, Alain Baeckeroot [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Le jeudi 21 février 2008, Don Dailey a écrit : If you look at the table you will notice that going from level 4 to level 11 (which is 7 doublings and should take 128X longer) only takes

Re: [computer-go] 13x13 study. Time and memory

2008-02-22 Thread Don Dailey
Alain Baeckeroot wrote: Le vendredi 22 février 2008, Sylvain Gelly a écrit : 2008/2/22, Alain Baeckeroot [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Le jeudi 21 février 2008, Don Dailey a écrit : If you look at the table you will notice that going from level 4 to level 11 (which is 7 doublings and

[computer-go] 13x13 study.

2008-02-21 Thread Don Dailey
The study is running very well. We have 32 computers being used so far, some participants are providing 2 (or even more) computers. It would be great to get even more as we get into higher levels, as it will take a LOT of power to get a lot of games when each games takes 2 or 3 hours or

Re: [computer-go] 13x13 study.

2008-02-21 Thread Alain Baeckeroot
Le jeudi 21 février 2008, Don Dailey a écrit : The study is running very well. We have 32 computers being used so far, some participants are providing 2 (or even more) computers. It would be great to get even more as we get into higher levels, as it will take a LOT of power to get a

Re: [computer-go] 13x13 study.

2008-02-21 Thread Don Dailey
It would be great to get even more as we get into higher levels, as it will take a LOT of power to get a lot of games when each games takes 2 or 3 hours or more. Is it possible to have a indicative time and memory consumption at each level, for 9x9 and 13x13 study ? I guess this does

Re: [computer-go] 13x13 study.

2008-02-21 Thread Don Dailey
If you look at the table you will notice that going from level 4 to level 11 (which is 7 doublings and should take 128X longer) only takes 59.43 X longer. Some possible hypothesis: 1. Computer more loaded during early games? 2. Mogo resigns earlier at longer levels. 3. Mogo's stop

Re: [computer-go] 13x13 study.

2008-02-21 Thread Sylvain Gelly
Hi Don, 2008/2/21, Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you look at the table you will notice that going from level 4 to level 11 (which is 7 doublings and should take 128X longer) only takes 59.43 X longer. Mogo's stop early heuristic works better at longer levels. That is actually very

Re: [computer-go] 13x13 study.

2008-02-21 Thread Heikki Levanto
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 04:08:56PM -0500, Don Dailey wrote: It's also interesting how the graph up to level 11 seems to form 2 very straight lines, almost as if they were connected at an angle. This must be a by-product of how we started the test. We played only the first 4 levels as we

Re: [computer-go] 13x13 study.

2008-02-21 Thread terry mcintyre
--- Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's also interesting how the graph up to level 11 seems to form 2 very straight lines, almost as if they were connected at an angle. This must be a by-product of how we started the test. We played only the first 4 levels as we were testing the