Re: [Computer-go] Computer-go Digest, Vol 69, Issue 14

[Petr Baudis]

On Fri, Oct 09, 2015 at 12:22:36PM +0800, Cai Gengyang wrote:
> I just defeated Hirabot12(2d) by resignation. This bot is not very strong,
> prone to making huge calculation errors in life-and-death situations ..

Which bot isn't? :-)

Petr Baudis
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Re: [Computer-go] Computer-go Digest, Vol 69, Issue 14

[Cai Gengyang]

I just defeated Hirabot12(2d) by resignation. This bot is not very strong,
prone to making huge calculation errors in life-and-death situations ..

Gengyang

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 8:00 PM,  wrote:

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>1. Re: KGS bot tournaments - what are your opinions? (Tobias Graf)
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> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 13:10:29 +0200
> From: Tobias Graf 
> To: computer-go@computer-go.org
> Subject: Re: [Computer-go] KGS bot tournaments - what are your
> opinions?
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> Hi,
> just my 2 cents:
>
> 1. "Reducing computing power." Just let me quote the standings of the
> last 9x9 tournament.
> 1) 18 Cores
> 2) 80 Cores
> 3) 12 Cores
> 4) 288 Cores
> 5) 8 Cores
>
> Moreover, using the 18 cores of place number one is affordable to
> everyone as Remi outlined.
>
> Still, i would compete in a few desktop-hardware-tournaments. It should
> just have reasonable limits, there is no point to make a tournament on
> raspberry pi's ;-) Maybe one of the slow-tournaments can be changed into
> a desktop-hardware tournament.
>
> 2) stefan kaitschick proposed to "force a minimum time consumption on
> the first moves of 9*9 games. It's annoying as a spectator to have the
> first 8 moves or so just spit out on the board, forcing you to go back
> to see what happened there."
> I don't like forcing too many things. But it is a very good idea, so i
> just added a one second book-delay to abakus. Maybe other authors find
> this useful, too.
>
> Best,
> Tobias
>
> On 10/07/2015 12:27 PM, Nick Wedd wrote:
> > I am thinking of making some small changes to the way I run bot
> > tournaments on KGS.  If you have ever taken part in a KGS bot
> > tournament, I would like to hear your opinions on three things.
> >
> >
> > 1.  Limit on processor power?
> >
> > This is the main point on which I want your opinions.  The other two
> > are trivial.
> >
> > Several people have suggested to me that these events would be fairer
> > if there were a limit on the computing power of the entrants. I would
> > like to do this, but I don't know how. I have little understanding of
> > the terminology, I don't know how /e.g./ multiple cores in one
> > computer compare with multiple computers on one network, and I don't
> > know how to count a graphics card. /If/ someone can find a way to
> > specify an upper limit to permitted power which is clear and easy to
> > understand, and /if/ most entrants would favor imposing such a limit,
> > I will discuss what it should be, and apply it.  I am not able to
> > check what entrants are really running on, but I will trust people.
> >
> >
> > 2. Zeroes in the "Annual Championship" table.
> >
> > The table at http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/annual/index.html has a 0 in
> > a cell where a program competed but did not score, and a blank where
> > it did not compete (at least it should do, I sometimes get it wrong).
> > I would prefer to omit these zeroes, they seem a bit rude. Also there
> > is no clear distinction between competing and not competing - how
> > should I treat a program which crashes and disappears after two
> > rounds, or one (like AyaMC last Sunday) which plays in every round but
> > is broken and has no chance of winning?  I realise that the zeroes
> > some convey information that may be of interest. Should I continue to
> > use them, or just leave those cells blank?
> >
> >
> > 3. Live crosstable
> >
> > When I write up my reports, I include a crosstable, like the one near
> > the top of http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/past/116/index.html .  This is
> > easy for me, I run a script which reads the data from the KGS page
> > (http://www.gokgs.com/tournEntrants.jsp?sort=s=990 in this case)
> > and builds the crosstable in html, which I copy into the tournament
> > report. It only works for Swiss (and maybe Round Robin) tournaments.
> > It works while the tournament is still running, though only between
> > rounds.I could build a current crosstable each round during a
> > tournament if there is any demand for it.
> >
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> >
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