Re: [Computer-go] DeepMind's Victory over Ke Jie

[uurtamo .]

1) triumphed over a particular boardgame, perhaps.

2) this has been true since the early days of Monte Carlo go bots -- it
tends to result in a higher winning probability when the focus is on...
winning probability. People have tried to make bots that focus on points
instead, but trying to win by more than komi usually results in a weaker
bot. Others can detail their experiments for you and have here at length.

s.


On Jun 7, 2017 1:21 PM, "Cai Gengyang"  wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> Just a couple of questions :
>
> 1) Is it true that DeepMind's comprehensive victory over Ke Jie means that
> essentially it is proven to be true that AI has definitely triumphed over
> humanity ?
>
> 2) Also, I read that AG's style is "conservative" -- i.e. it almost always
> prefers the higher chance of winning by a small number of points compared
> to the smaller chance of winning by a large number of points ?
>
> Thanks alot
>
> GengYang
>
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Re: [Computer-go] DeepMind's Victory over Ke Jie

[Xavier Combelle]

Le 7 juin 2017 22:21, "Cai Gengyang"  a écrit :

Hi guys,

Just a couple of questions :

1) Is it true that DeepMind's comprehensive victory over Ke Jie means that
essentially it is proven to be true that AI has definitely triumphed over
humanity ?


I would say together with the 60-0 win of the Master games yes.


2) Also, I read that AG's style is "conservative" -- i.e. it almost always
prefers the higher chance of winning by a small number of points compared
to the smaller chance of winning by a large number of points ?


Yes it is the easiest way to make a strong bot.


Thanks alot

GengYang

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[Computer-go] DeepMind's Victory over Ke Jie

[Cai Gengyang]

Hi guys,

Just a couple of questions :

1) Is it true that DeepMind's comprehensive victory over Ke Jie means that
essentially it is proven to be true that AI has definitely triumphed over
humanity ?

2) Also, I read that AG's style is "conservative" -- i.e. it almost always
prefers the higher chance of winning by a small number of points compared
to the smaller chance of winning by a large number of points ?

Thanks alot

GengYang
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