Re: [computer-go] Biasing nodes according to pattern gammas

2009-12-16 Thread Jason House
Since patterns are correlated with each other, the gamma sets are specific to the pattern set used. Since more patterns are used in the tree, itrequires a separate set of gammas than the in-tree search. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 16, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Jacques Basaldúa wrote: > Petr Bau

Re: [computer-go] Biasing nodes according to pattern gammas

2009-12-16 Thread Rémi Coulom
Jacques Basaldúa wrote: > Petr Baudis wrote: > > I wonder now, do you use separate set of gammas for simulations and node > > biasing? Since I've found that the performance seems very bad if I don't > > include some time-expensive features, since the gammas are then very > > off; I will p

[computer-go] Biasing nodes according to pattern gammas

2009-12-16 Thread Jacques Basaldúa
> Petr Baudis wrote: > > I wonder now, do you use separate set of gammas for simulations and node > > biasing? Since I've found that the performance seems very bad if I don't > > include some time-expensive features, since the gammas are then very > > off; I will probably simply generate two ga

Re: [computer-go] Biasing nodes according to pattern gammas

2009-12-15 Thread Rémi Coulom
Petr Baudis wrote: I wonder now, do you use separate set of gammas for simulations and node biasing? Since I've found that the performance seems very bad if I don't include some time-expensive features, since the gammas are then very off; I will probably simply generate two gamma sets, but perhap

Re: [computer-go] Biasing nodes according to pattern gammas

2009-12-15 Thread Petr Baudis
Hi! On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 07:46:54PM +0100, Rémi Coulom wrote: > Petr Baudis wrote: > > How do you (e.g. CrazyStone) solve the issue? Or do you perform > >explicit unpruning by sorting the nodes instead of biasing them? > > I bias them too. I use move probability, not move gamma, which > norm

Re: [computer-go] Biasing nodes according to pattern gammas

2009-12-14 Thread Rémi Coulom
Petr Baudis wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 07:46:54PM +0100, Rémi Coulom wrote: I bias them too. I use move probability, not move gamma, which normalizes the value between 0 and 1. I multiply this probability by a constant, divide by the number of playouts, and add it to the move score. I see,

Re: [computer-go] Biasing nodes according to pattern gammas

2009-12-14 Thread Petr Baudis
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 07:46:54PM +0100, Rémi Coulom wrote: > I bias them too. I use move probability, not move gamma, which > normalizes the value between 0 and 1. I multiply this probability by > a constant, divide by the number of playouts, and add it to the move > score. I see, but the consta

Re: [computer-go] Biasing nodes according to pattern gammas

2009-12-14 Thread Rémi Coulom
Petr Baudis wrote: Hi! How would you recommend to bias nodes in the tree according to pattern strengths, when the pattern strength can be in (0,inf)? (I'm using this for Remi's pattern ELO model, but I guess other fuzzy pattern values face similar problems.) I have node values in the form

[computer-go] Biasing nodes according to pattern gammas

2009-12-14 Thread Petr Baudis
Hi! How would you recommend to bias nodes in the tree according to pattern strengths, when the pattern strength can be in (0,inf)? (I'm using this for Remi's pattern ELO model, but I guess other fuzzy pattern values face similar problems.) I have node values in the form of W / N (wins / vis