Re: [computer-go] cgos viewer feature request

2007-11-02 Thread Don Dailey
Nothing to apologize over! I probably should have put some kind of column headings or something. I thought it more useful to be a count-down timer - it's much easier to calculate how much time you took by subtraction with the previous entry than it is to see how much time is left by adding up ev

[computer-go] Rapid action value estimation

2007-11-02 Thread Jason House
I'd like to implement RAVE as described in [1]. I believe I have a very clear understanding of how to do this at the leaves of the UCT search tree. What I'm not sure about is how to apply RAVE results higher in the UCT tree. Does anyone have any experience with this that they're willing to share?

Re: [computer-go] Standard references on CGOS

2007-11-02 Thread Jason House
On 10/29/07, Christoph Birk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Oct 29, 2007, at 8:39 AM, Jason House wrote: > > For all of us in the bot-making kiddie pool, it's exceptionally > > helpful to have reference implementations of basic algorithms > > running on the server. When playing with AMAF, I foun

Re: [computer-go] CGOS on sourceforge

2007-11-02 Thread Heikki Levanto
On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 08:57:38PM -0400, Joshua Shriver wrote: > In that case I stand happily corrected. I once was going to release > and one of the stipulations what that it had to be reassigned to the > FSF. Couldn't remember if it was sourceforge, gnu, or what... GNU Go has this requirement.

[computer-go] 9x9 CGOS

2007-11-02 Thread Christoph Birk
It appears that CGOS (9x9) is down. Christoph ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/

Re: [computer-go] cgos viewer feature request

2007-11-02 Thread Hideki Kato
Hi Don, Too much apologize is a (well known :-) Japanese culture or custom. Please never mind. I agree that the remaining time is more useful than the elapsed time of a move and, also, some kind of explanation is much helpful. Anyway, thank you for such a nice improvement. It's very useful f

[computer-go] Connecting a gtp engine to CGOS 19

2007-11-02 Thread Jacques BasaldĂșa
I am trying to make a description of all steps required. But it still doesn't work. So please, say what am I doing wrong. 1. Get TCL. There are many "flavors" with GUI, debugger etc. The simplest, when you just need to run a Tk application is something like: http://www.equi4.com/pub/tk/tc

[computer-go] icml2007: Learning to solve game trees

2007-11-02 Thread RĂ©mi Coulom
Hi, Interesting paper, in case you did not notice: http://www.machinelearning.org/proceedings/icml2007/papers/394.pdf Title: Learning to solve game trees Authors: David Stern, Ralf Herbrich, Thore Graepel Abstract: We apply probability theory to the task of proving whether a goal can be achie

Re: [computer-go] Rapid action value estimation

2007-11-02 Thread Christoph Birk
On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, Benjamin Teuber wrote: I don't think there's something different at different depths in the tree.. To update RAVE after a simulation, for each child of a node you visited during that simulation, you update if the move leading to the child was played later (until the end of the

Re: [computer-go] Rapid action value estimation

2007-11-02 Thread Benjamin Teuber
I don't think there's something different at different depths in the tree.. To update RAVE after a simulation, for each child of a node you visited during that simulation, you update if the move leading to the child was played later (until the end of the playout). Then, always when you calculate th

Re: [computer-go] Rapid action value estimation

2007-11-02 Thread Benjamin Teuber
I store it in the normal uct tree, so that each node has variables raveVisits and raveWins besides uctVisits and uctWins. So a node in the UCT-DAG can either represent a position or a move. On 11/2/07, Christoph Birk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, Benjamin Teuber wrote: > > I d