Re: [Computer-go] Are the AlphaGols coming?

2017-01-04 Thread Thomas Rohde
On 2017-01-04 at 21:41, Richard Lorentz wrote: > Having fallen a bit out of the loop can somebody please update me (us?) a > little on these 60 games. How strong were the opponents? Are some/most/all > actually pros? What was the time control? What is the Foxwq

Re: [Computer-go] ADMIN: Maintenance, a few days downtime

2017-01-04 Thread Lukas van de Wiel
Well, now that we all know the Master was AlphaGo after all, the downtime is not so critical anymore. :-) Take your time and thank you for your effort in keeping the server working. Cheers Lukas On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Rémi Coulom wrote: > Hi, > > All the SGF

Re: [Computer-go] Are the AlphaGols coming?

2017-01-04 Thread Horace Ho
The players and the results (in Chinese): 第01局：Magist(P)执白 v. 满汉(P)（棋手真名不详），白中盘胜 第02局：Magist(P)执白 v. 燕归来(P)（棋手真名不详），白中盘胜 第03局：圣人(P)（棋手真名不详）执白 v. Magist(P)，黑中盘胜 第04局：Magist(P)执白 v. 卧虎(P)（谢尔豪 ），白中盘胜 第05局：无痕(P)（於之莹）执白 v. Magist(P)，黑中盘胜 第06局：翱翔(P)（李翔宇）执白 v. Magist(P)，黑中盘胜 第07局：重逢时(P)（棋手真名不详）执白 v.

[Computer-go] it's alphago

2017-01-04 Thread Ray Tayek
https://games.slashdot.org/story/17/01/04/2022236/googles-alphago-ai-secretively-won-more-than-50-straight-games-against-worlds-top-go-players -- Honesty is a very expensive gift. So, don't expect it from cheap people - Warren Buffett http://tayek.com/

Re: [Computer-go] it's alphago

2017-01-04 Thread Yamato
Yes, it is AlphaGo. I am relieved that DeepMind clarified this. Honestly I got a little frustrated that many people didn't think that was AlphaGo. It was almost clear to me because I know the difficulty of developing AlphaGo-like bots. I hope Aja can comment here, also about GodMoves :) Yamato

Re: [Computer-go] Our Silicon Overlord

2017-01-04 Thread Robert Jasiek
On 04.01.2017 22:08, "Ingo Althöfer" wrote: humanity's last hope The "last hope" are theoreticians creating arcane positions far outside the NN of AlphaGo so that its deep reading would be insufficient compensation! Another chance is long-term, subtle creation and use of aji. -- robert

Re: [Computer-go] Reminder: Handicap-29 Prize

2017-01-04 Thread fotland
Yes. I’m travelling this week, but when I get home I can look for it. I’m not sure I can find the old source backups to make a gtp version. David From: Computer-go [mailto:computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Álvaro Begué Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 4:48 PM To:

Re: [Computer-go] Our Silicon Overlord

2017-01-04 Thread Xavier Combelle
Le 05/01/2017 à 07:37, Robert Jasiek a écrit : > On 04.01.2017 22:08, "Ingo Althöfer" wrote: >> humanity's last hope > > The "last hope" are theoreticians creating arcane positions far > outside the NN of AlphaGo so that its deep reading would be > insufficient compensation! Another chance is

Re: [Computer-go] Are the AlphaGols coming?

2017-01-04 Thread Janzert
On 1/2/2017 7:05 AM, "Ingo Althöfer" wrote: Hello Paweł, There have been another 8 games on Foxwq server: ... Totally, 38-0. It looks like a kind, indirect (yet powerful), message from DeepMind to Chinese Go Association: "Please, let us try a real challenge, like 3-handicap games, it does not

Re: [Computer-go] Are the AlphaGols coming?

2017-01-04 Thread Jim O'Flaherty
Tysvm for posting that! I had predicted it was AlphaGo from the beginning. If there is a competitor emerging, I think we would have seen some sort of publicity around it, if not just to provoke a response with the AlphaGo team. On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Janzert

Re: [Computer-go] Are the AlphaGols coming?

2017-01-04 Thread Ingo Althöfer
Hello guys, what shall I say. > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 04. Januar 2017 um 16:11 Uhr > Von: Janzert > ... > On 1/2/2017 7:05 AM, "Ingo Althöfer" wrote: > > Hello Paweł, ... > Looks like we have an official answer in the affirmative >

Re: [Computer-go] Are the AlphaGols coming?

2017-01-04 Thread David Ongaro
After this unbelievable streak of 60 won games (even though we still have to see how it holds up with longer time control) it’s not completely unthinkable anymore to play top pros with a handicap. Sadly because the Komi is fixed for the value network it seems the next bigger handicap is 2

Re: [Computer-go] Are the AlphaGols coming?

2017-01-04 Thread Richard Lorentz
Having fallen a bit out of the loop can somebody please update me (us?) a little on these 60 games. How strong were the opponents? Are some/most/all actually pros? What was the time control? What is the Foxwq server? Thank you very much! -Richard On 01/04/2017 12:07 PM, David Ongaro wrote:

[Computer-go] Our Silicon Overlord

2017-01-04 Thread Ingo Althöfer
Hi Richard,   > ... can somebody please update me (us?) a > little on these 60 games. How strong were > the opponents? they were all strong pro players. Ke Jie (humanity's last hope in the eyes of several go players) also played three of the games. Thinking times were small base times plus

Re: [Computer-go] Our Silicon Overlord

2017-01-04 Thread Adrian Petrescu
I think it was mentioned that Master was playing all of its moves in almost exactly 5-second increments, even trivial forcing move responses, which was one of the things that led people to believe it was an AI. If that's true, AlphaGo was basically playing under a time-handicap. On Wed, Jan 4,

[Computer-go] Reminder: Handicap-29 Prize

2017-01-04 Thread Ingo Althöfer
Like in every year, the reminder on my Handicap-29 prize: http://www.althofer.de/handicap-29-prize.html I think, AlphaGo in its current form would not have a chance to cash in ;-) Ingo. ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org