[Computer-go] On proper naming

2018-03-08 Thread Ingo Althöfer
Hi Dan, hi friends, > There is actually no randomness in the algorithm, just like AlphaZero's... but then it does not make sense to call that algorithm "rollout". ** In general: when introducing a new name, care should be taken that the name

Re: [Computer-go] On proper naming

2018-03-08 Thread Darren Cook
> but then it does not make sense to call that algorithm "rollout". > > In general: when introducing a new name, care should > be taken that the name describes properly what is going on. Speaking of which, why did people start calling them rollouts instead of playouts? Darren P.S. And don't

[Computer-go] PUCT formula

2018-03-08 Thread Brian Sheppard via Computer-go
In the AGZ paper, there is a formula for what they call “a variant of the PUCT algorithm”, and they cite a paper from Christopher Rosin: http://gauss.ececs.uc.edu/Workshops/isaim2010/papers/rosin.pdf But that paper has a formula that he calls the PUCB formula, which incorporates the priors

Re: [Computer-go] On proper naming

2018-03-08 Thread Brian Sheppard via Computer-go
The technique originated with backgammon players in the late 1970's, who would roll out positions manually. Ron Tiekert (Scrabble champion) also applied the technique to Scrabble, and I took that idea for Maven. It seemed like people were using the terms interchangeably. -Original

Re: [Computer-go] On proper naming

2018-03-08 Thread Ingo Althöfer
Hi Darren, > > but then it does not make sense to call that algorithm "rollout". > > ... > > Speaking of which, why did people start calling them rollouts > instead of playouts? it comes from the Backgammon scene, where for instance rungames in the endgame were estimated by dozens or hundreds