Re: [Computer-go] 0.5-point wins in Go vs Extremely slow LeelaChessZero wins

2019-03-05 Thread uurtamo
The human passenger is going to be asleep in the car and hopefully not awakened by something as trivial as braking. I recently understood how komi is being dealt with by Leela zero (or at least by petgo). It's so kludgey and yet is 7d at kgs. So let's just relax on the small optimizations. The

Re: [Computer-go] 0.5-point wins in Go vs Extremely slow LeelaChessZero wins

2019-03-05 Thread David Wu
Yes, partly. For Go, putting some partial weight on score maximization causes KataGo to continue to play strong moves and try to kill things or seek profitable trades when it's already winning, subject to still being fairly safe. Since most of the utility is still on win/loss rather than score,

Re: [Computer-go] 0.5-point wins in Go vs Extremely slow LeelaChessZero wins

2019-03-05 Thread Shawn Ligocki
I wonder if this behavior could be avoided by giving a small incentive to win by the most points (or most material in chess) similar to to the technique mentioned by David Wu in KataGo a few days ago. The problem right now is that the AI has literally no reason to think that winning with more