Re: [spam probable] Re: [computer-go] Monte-Carlo is the future of 19x19

2006-12-01 Thread sylvain . gelly
Hello, On 11/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To give an idea of the scale (at least for MoGo), 70k simulations/move (with the best parameters) against gnugo 3.6/level 8 gives 89% in 9x9, 68% in 13x13, 32% in 19x19. This is still not assessment of scalability. Each of

Re: [spam probable] Re: [computer-go] Monte-Carlo is the future of 19x19

2006-12-01 Thread Magnus Persson
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Also, there are a lot to improvements to do in MC in a quite short term, so I share the point of view of Rémi, Don and some others when saying that MC programs will fill the gap with classical programs in 19x19. And this can be soon. Now, it is the work of the

Re: [spam probable] Re: [computer-go] Monte-Carlo is the future of 19x19

2006-12-01 Thread sylvain . gelly
I think I disagree with the statement an evaluation that only understands final scores will not make a strong go program depending on what you mean by random. here i will interject by agreeing with the statement that an evaluation that only understands final scores will not make a

Re: [spam probable] Re: [spam probable] Re: [computer-go] Monte-Carlo is the future of 19x19

2006-12-01 Thread sylvain . gelly
Le Vendredi 01 Décembre 2006 21:26, steve uurtamo a écrit : In fact, I think we say the same thing, simply using different meaning for the same word. By random you mean uniformly random, and I don't mean that, I simply mean random (in the sense of random variable). what distribution

Re: [spam probable] Re: [computer-go] Monte-Carlo is the future of 19x19

2006-11-30 Thread Chris Fant
On 11/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To give an idea of the scale (at least for MoGo), 70k simulations/move (with the best parameters) against gnugo 3.6/level 8 gives 89% in 9x9, 68% in 13x13, 32% in 19x19. This is still not assessment of scalability. Each of those 70k