Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-01 Thread Chris Dunford
I sent it to the shop. They were going to start from zero with Windows Vista. Then they called me to say that I should not do this becuase of many drivers. They thought I should do it with the XP Professional. Marcio, I said this the first time, and I'll say it again: You need to find a

Re: [CGUYS] What really happens to the computers we recycle?

2009-09-01 Thread Bill Wajert
O On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Steve wrote: To follow this suggestion would increase the incentive to put even more people in prison. We are already very close to having the highest percentage of population in

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Not only that depending on what you get you can choose XP or Vista. Stewart At 05:37 AM 9/1/2009, you wrote: I sent it to the shop. They were going to start from zero with Windows Vista. Then they called me to say that I should not do this becuase of many drivers. They thought I should do

Re: [CGUYS] What really happens to the computers we recycle?

2009-09-01 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:33 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Jeff Milesjmile...@charter.net wrote: And if keeping these jobs in America is to expensive for a business, why not make it a prison job. We've got the worlds largest live

Re: [CGUYS] Snow Leopard Review

2009-09-01 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: What I was trying to get at is very often specialized software does not upgrade as fast as OS's do. When my wife worked at a newspaper they still ran one of the first Mac's as that is what the specialized

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-01 Thread Chris Dunford
From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com] On Behalf Of Rev. Stewart Marshall Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 8:28 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit... Not only that depending on what you get you can choose

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Depends on what he is comfortable with. I admit I have been using Vista the last month and it is not at all as bad as I thought. It has a few quirks but I have not found a program yet that does not work with it. HOWEVER: If Marcio buys a refurbed computer there is no free upgrade I bought

Re: [CGUYS] What really happens to the computers we recycle?

2009-09-01 Thread Jordan
Bill Wajert wrote: To put it straight we have not been the Land of the Free for decades. We have become the Land of the Regulated. We've had 8 years, really many more since it started before Reagan, of tearing down regulations. It doesn't work.(like we didn't already know that) Look where

Re: [CGUYS] Power strip

2009-09-01 Thread b_s-wilk
Interex is one that I have. Here's a newer model: http://gooeydoobooks.com/Interex-UMPC900TF-Surge-Suppressor/M/B001YS0EXK.htm?traffic_src=froogleutm_medium=organicutm_source=froogle The Kensington MasterPiece model was discontinued years ago. Will a used one still provide the protection

Re: [CGUYS] Power strip

2009-09-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Yes as they get hit by spikes etc. they loose the ability to filter them out. I like them just for the power option alone with out the regulation. I would take one of those and plug it into a newer strip. That way you get protection and convenience. Still using one on the church machine.

Re: [CGUYS] Power strip

2009-09-01 Thread b_s-wilk
Subject: Power strip Does anyone know of a power strip that has separate power switches for each outlet? Doesn't absolutely have to have surge suppression, although that would be a plus. The ones I can find are either all on or all off. Go to a music instrument store or look on line

Re: [CGUYS] What really happens to the computers we recycle?

2009-09-01 Thread mike
This isn't logical on it's face, this says that our useless congress and senate have spent decades unmaking laws...we know this to not be true. There are regulations in the thousands more then there were years ago. On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote: Bill Wajert

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-01 Thread Marcio
Sorry to take your time guys. As I said before, to some extent I enjoy computers and its vicissitudes... Talked with shop right now. I have a generic computer with an ASUS Mobo and a Pentium 4 (I believe 2.6). It was giving me all kinds of problems. It had Windows XP Pro and I have the Vista

Re: [CGUYS] Power strip

2009-09-01 Thread db
WoW! These are great Betty. I was wondering myself what I was going to do when I needed to replace my Interex. Even though most of us don't use CRT's anymore it still is so handy to have front and center a switch console that turns various peripherals, lights etc off and on ... Their

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-01 Thread db
Marcio, You are you own worst enemy! ... but as you say you love it. We all ... most of us anyway ... just wish you would do the easy and more inexpensive thing by leaving that boat anchor on the bottom where it now rests and belongs for all eternity and just get a computer off the shelf

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-01 Thread TPiwowar
On Sep 1, 2009, at 2:51 PM Sep 1, db wrote: We all ... most of us anyway ... just wish you would do the easy and more inexpensive thing by leaving that boat anchor on the bottom where it now rests and belongs for all eternity and just get a computer off the shelf that is current and works.

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-01 Thread TPiwowar
On Sep 1, 2009, at 10:06 AM Sep 1, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Depends on what he is comfortable with. I just wiped a drive this a.m. and reinstalled M$'s latest good OS: Win XP. Why provide Apple with more fodder for its commercials? M$ is making its usual promises for the next OS, but

Re: [CGUYS] What really happens to the computers we recycle?

2009-09-01 Thread TPiwowar
On Sep 1, 2009, at 11:40 AM Sep 1, Jordan wrote: We've had 8 years, really many more since it started before Reagan, of tearing down regulations. It doesn't work.(like we didn't already know that) Look where we are now. We need freedom for people, not freedom of corporations to take

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-01 Thread db
Well actually I might have been. Are you allowed to take Dells out of the States? db TPiwowar wrote: On Sep 1, 2009, at 2:51 PM Sep 1, db wrote: We all ... most of us anyway ... just wish you would do the easy and more inexpensive thing by leaving that boat anchor on the bottom where it

Re: [CGUYS] What really happens to the computers we recycle?

2009-09-01 Thread mike
Oddly MFB's have the same psychological issue. On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:12 PM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Sep 1, 2009, at 11:40 AM Sep 1, Jordan wrote: We've had 8 years, really many more since it started before Reagan, of tearing down regulations. It doesn't work.(like we didn't

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Yes and no. It depends on what is in them plus you void the warranty. I know Dell has a Canadian outlet (my in laws.) So I assume that they also have one in South America, Brazil. Stewart At 03:16 PM 9/1/2009, you wrote: Well actually I might have been. Are you allowed to take Dells out

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-01 Thread mike
It could be a field goal but with your glasses you won't see anything anyway. On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:01 PM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Sep 1, 2009, at 10:06 AM Sep 1, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Depends on what he is comfortable with. I just wiped a drive this a.m. and reinstalled

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-01 Thread Marcio
I don´t have a Dell Rev. I have a generic computer. Marcio -Original Message- From: Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net Sent: Sep 1, 2009 4:46 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit... Yes and no. It depends on what is in them plus you

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-01 Thread Marcio
What do you mean by Dells? Marcio -Original Message- From: db db...@att.net Sent: Sep 1, 2009 4:16 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit... Well actually I might have been. Are you allowed to take Dells out of the States? db TPiwowar wrote:

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-01 Thread Marcio
I know, I am trying to work on my masoquist traits... with my analyst: myself. Marcio -Original Message- From: db db...@att.net Sent: Sep 1, 2009 2:51 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit... Marcio, You are you own worst enemy! ... but as you

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Dell computers. www.dell.com They also have an outlet where they sell off lease computers and refurbs. I know you do not have a Dell. Marcio you have a shop built computer. I was responding to the guy who suggested you buy one while up here. Stewart At 07:16 PM 9/1/2009, you wrote: What

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Marcio you know what they say about a doctor who tries to cure himself Stewart At 07:23 PM 9/1/2009, you wrote: I know, I am trying to work on my masoquist traits... with my analyst: myself. Marcio -Original Message- From: db db...@att.net Sent: Sep 1, 2009 2:51 PM To:

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-01 Thread Reid Katan
Quoting Marcio m...@ix.netcom.com: What do you mean by Dells? Dell computers. www.dell.com They build computers. It would be like getting an HP or a Gateway or--gods forbid--a Mac. They build a fairly quality machine.

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-01 Thread Chris Dunford
Marcio you know what they say about a doctor who tries to cure himself Stewart Rev, it's back to Aphorisms 101 for you. Aren't you thinking of lawyers? A lawyer who represents himself has a fool for a client. But for doctors: Physician, heal thyself. I'm not convinced that's sound

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I know I was rejiggering it. Stewart At 07:52 PM 9/1/2009, you wrote: Marcio you know what they say about a doctor who tries to cure himself Stewart Rev, it's back to Aphorisms 101 for you. Aren't you thinking of lawyers? A lawyer who represents himself has a fool for a client. But

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Actually Dells rank a little higher on the quality scale than HP's and I think even Gateways now. Stewart At 07:54 PM 9/1/2009, you wrote: Quoting Marcio m...@ix.netcom.com: What do you mean by Dells? Dell computers. www.dell.com They build computers. It would be like getting an HP or a

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-01 Thread Marcio
I know, I know... the patients always improve... the psychiatrists don´t. Would you believe that I lied in a couch for three and half years, four times a week (50 minutes) at a time that there were no computers?...What that didit do for me? I played the harmonica a little better... Marcio

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-01 Thread Marcio
Dell? No, I am always doing generic computers... I buy the parts... This is no good? Marcio -Original Message- From: Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net Sent: Sep 1, 2009 9:59 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit... Actually Dells

Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I understand the feeling I still build my own. But sometimes you have to dump a problem (your local shop) and go with someone who has a pretty good proven track record. Plus with the right warranty they will be there and fix it under your supervision. Stewart At 08:42 PM 9/1/2009, you