Re: [CGUYS] MS Astroturfing

2008-10-25 Thread Jeff Wright
In the sidebar of the article about RAID was another interesting story: http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=2415 The author reports that MS is seeking to pay pundits to write anti- Apple stories. They offered to provide all the research to write from and $15,000. Proving once again that having a

Re: [CGUYS] MS Astroturfing

2008-10-24 Thread Jordan
Chris Dunford wrote: The MS ads are not memorable so you might get the impression that there are fewer. So, you are seriously saying that there have been more MS ads than Mac ads, total, over the last two years. Seriously? You are seriously saying that? I don't see words to that

Re: [CGUYS] MS Astroturfing

2008-10-24 Thread Chris Dunford
Do you seriously mean to say that they are not fat, happy, and pompous? Of course not. They are only two of the three. You have to guess. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** **

Re: [CGUYS] MS Astroturfing

2008-10-23 Thread mike
Estimates put Vista development costs in the billions. Apple hasn't got anyone 'scared to death' and for good reason, there is nothing to be scared of, just laughed at. Sure the Apple ads are funny, but funny in a daily/colbert lack of truthiness kind of way. Either way, money is no measure of

Re: [CGUYS] MS Astroturfing

2008-10-23 Thread Chris Dunford
Have you seen the latest two Apple ads? They call attention to MS's huge budget for enhancing its image and small budget for fixing its crappy software. I've seen them, and they are, as always, funny. But this time the reason they are funny is that they're so ridiculous. How many Apple ads

Re: [CGUYS] MS Astroturfing

2008-10-23 Thread Richard P.
The TV commercials I've seen are at about a 1:1 ratio between Apple and MS. At least I can enjoy and understand the Apple ones. Clever, creative and simple. I'm not sure what the message is with the MS I'm a PC campaign, and the Seinfeld commercials are kind of lame. But then what do I know, I'm

Re: [CGUYS] MS Astroturfing

2008-10-23 Thread Steve Rigby
On Oct 23, 2008, at 1:13 PM, Richard P. wrote: The TV commercials I've seen are at about a 1:1 ratio between Apple and MS. At least I can enjoy and understand the Apple ones. Clever, creative and simple. I'm not sure what the message is with the MS I'm a PC campaign, and the Seinfeld

Re: [CGUYS] MS Astroturfing

2008-10-23 Thread Chris Dunford
The TV commercials I've seen are at about a 1:1 ratio between Apple and MS Nah. Maybe in the last month or so the ratio has been closer, but I still see a LOT more Mac ads than MS ads. But more importantly, the Apple ads have been running since 2006, and they are ubiquitous. You cannot avoid

Re: [CGUYS] MS Astroturfing

2008-10-23 Thread Tom Piwowar
Windows users aren't all nerdy sheep-like idiots. Definitely not nerdy. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ **

Re: [CGUYS] MS Astroturfing

2008-10-23 Thread Tom Piwowar
I've seen them, and they are, as always, funny. But this time the reason they are funny is that they're so ridiculous. How many Apple ads have you seen for each MS ad? Hundreds, at least. The idea of Apple taking a swipe at MS for its advertising budget is truly amusing. The MS ads are not

Re: [CGUYS] MS Astroturfing

2008-10-23 Thread Chris Dunford
The MS ads are not memorable so you might get the impression that there are fewer. So, you are seriously saying that there have been more MS ads than Mac ads, total, over the last two years. Seriously? You are seriously saying that? The ads basically say we are fat, happy, and pompous, with

Re: [CGUYS] MS Astroturfing

2008-10-22 Thread Snyder, Mark (IT CIV)
In the sidebar of the article about RAID was another interesting story: http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=2415 The author reports that MS is seeking to pay pundits to write anti-Apple stories. They offered to provide all the research to write from and $15,000. I guess that is easier than fixing

Re: [CGUYS] MS Astroturfing

2008-10-22 Thread Tom Piwowar
When you're perpetually stuck in last place, that's SOP. I suppose that's why Apple ads remind me of McCain ads, divisive and slinging piss and vinegar everywhere, while the recent I'm a PC Windows ads come off much more inclusive, positive and hopeful, like a certain other presidential

Re: [CGUYS] MS Astroturfing

2008-10-22 Thread Jeff Wright
Perhaps you got one of those checks from MS too? If only. Ballmer won't return my calls. Apple has got MS scared to death and for good reason. Not really. Google, OTOH, does and for an actual good reason. * ** List