Re: [CGUYS] MacIgnorance

2007-10-14 Thread Jeff Wright
Which only proves the point that Windows security is poor and that you are so sold on the MS way of doing things that you can't get your brain around the concept of better security. All it proves is how ignorant you are of things other than those blessed by the Glorious Leader. Windows'

Re: [CGUYS] MacIgnorance

2007-10-14 Thread Tom Piwowar
Windows' biggest problem is installing the default user as the admin. Don't run as an admin and security problems vanish. Now, if we can only get these idiot developers to stop coding their products to only run if the user is an admin. The problem is only partially idiot developers. I would

Re: [CGUYS] MacIgnorance

2007-10-14 Thread Jeff Wright
Absolutely, don't login as admin, etc. It shouldn't be needed for day to day use for normal office applications. Would MS Office need to be admin to be usable? No. Every staffer runs as a lowest permission user at my .org. Office runs just fine.

Re: [CGUYS] MacIgnorance

2007-10-14 Thread Jeff Wright
1) pretending they have a mulit-user OS when they really don't. This is demonstrated by your complaing of too many steps. Windows does not need these steps because there is no real security there. It is like a kid's computer you buy for $10 at Toys-R-Us: lots of dials and buttons, but

Re: [CGUYS] MacIgnorance

2007-10-13 Thread Tom Piwowar
No, Windows just takes care of these housekeeping chores for you. I might have to change the name on the profile folder, but that's about it. It's smart enough to know that the admin account name has been changed. Which only proves the point that Windows security is poor and that you are so

Re: [CGUYS] MacIgnorance [Was: Grabbing domain names of well-known persons?

2007-10-12 Thread Jeff Wright
IMVHO, complaining that a Mac does not work exactly like a PC is a silly exercise. That's a given, but I keep coming upon issues on the Mac that are nothing but hoop jumping, compared to administering a PC. Change the admin name on a PC? That takes seconds. That is why those of us who

[CGUYS] MacIgnorance [Was: Grabbing domain names of well-known persons?

2007-10-12 Thread Tom Piwowar
IMVHO, complaining that a Mac does not work exactly like a PC is a silly exercise. change the short name of the root admin... *40* steps to do this. 40. If you don't make things worse doing it. That is why those of us who know what we are doing use a widely-available script. The general rule

Re: [CGUYS] MacIgnorance

2007-10-12 Thread Tom Piwowar
That's a given, but I keep coming upon issues on the Mac that are nothing but hoop jumping, compared to administering a PC. Change the admin name on a PC? That takes seconds. This is not just a name written in a box on the screen. You also must take care of things like file access permissions

Re: [CGUYS] MacIgnorance

2007-10-12 Thread Jeff Wright
This is not just a name written in a box on the screen. You also must take care of things like file access permissions and the keychain. I guess since the Windows system is inherently insecure there is less involved in changing a username. No, Windows just takes care of these housekeeping

Re: [CGUYS] MacIgnorance [Was: Grabbing domain names of well-known persons?

2007-10-12 Thread David K. Watson
I finally decided to see what all the hoopla was about, so I did a little Googling myself. The horrendous 40 step process for changing the admin name on a Mac turns out to be an Apple support document with instructions for changing the admin name, and even with this method you could have