Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer if backing up on external driv
I was reading the Wikipedia and thought to see what their article on RAID might contribute to our recent discussion. It reads... RAID is not a good alternative to backing up data. Data may become damaged or destroyed without harm to the drive(s) on which it is stored. For example, part of the data may be overwritten by a system malfunction; a file may be damaged or deleted by user error or malice and not noticed for days or weeks; and of course the entire array is at risk of catastrophes such as theft, flood, and fire. Which is pretty close to what I was trying to get across. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer if backing up on external driv
No. When we suggested RAIDs had other uses - I mentioned for speed - you argued they had no reason to be used for that either. You can't squirm out of this one. But then, I guess this is actually an apology.? :) On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was reading the Wikipedia and thought to see what their article on RAID might contribute to our recent discussion. It reads... RAID is not a good alternative to backing up data. Data may become damaged or destroyed without harm to the drive(s) on which it is stored. For example, part of the data may be overwritten by a system malfunction; a file may be damaged or deleted by user error or malice and not noticed for days or weeks; and of course the entire array is at risk of catastrophes such as theft, flood, and fire. Which is pretty close to what I was trying to get across. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer if backing up on external driv
Speed and downtime is the main reason to use RAID...at least in the areas I've used it. On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was reading the Wikipedia and thought to see what their article on RAID might contribute to our recent discussion. It reads... RAID is not a good alternative to backing up data. Data may become damaged or destroyed without harm to the drive(s) on which it is stored. For example, part of the data may be overwritten by a system malfunction; a file may be damaged or deleted by user error or malice and not noticed for days or weeks; and of course the entire array is at risk of catastrophes such as theft, flood, and fire. Which is pretty close to what I was trying to get across. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer if backing up on external driv
No. When we suggested RAIDs had other uses - I mentioned for speed - you argued they had no reason to be used for that either. Why drag that discredited notion back in? The world has not slipped back into the previous century. No savvy person would use RAID today. Let's not go there again. You can't squirm out of this one. But then, I guess this is actually an apology.? :) I'm addressing the original question (see subject line). RAID is not a backup strategy. And don't try to do a Palin on me. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer if backing up on external driv
Gotta admire Tom for treating his opinion as fact. Maybe he's charlie gibson in hiding.. On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. When we suggested RAIDs had other uses - I mentioned for speed - you argued they had no reason to be used for that either. Why drag that discredited notion back in? The world has not slipped back into the previous century. No savvy person would use RAID today. Let's not go there again. You can't squirm out of this one. But then, I guess this is actually an apology.? :) I'm addressing the original question (see subject line). RAID is not a backup strategy. And don't try to do a Palin on me. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer if backing up on external driv
Yet so many of today's motherboards, which have gone to SATA drive attachments, come with RAID built-in. At 04:34 PM 9/14/2008, Tom Piwowar wrote: Why drag that discredited notion back in? The world has not slipped back into the previous century. No savvy person would use RAID today. Let's not go there again. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer if backing up on external driv
They come with floppy drive controllers too...not sure that's a good measure hehe Mike On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Fred Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yet so many of today's motherboards, which have gone to SATA drive attachments, come with RAID built-in. At 04:34 PM 9/14/2008, Tom Piwowar wrote: Why drag that discredited notion back in? The world has not slipped back into the previous century. No savvy person would use RAID today. Let's not go there again. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Recycling
Maybe Jeff will want to take advantage of this. I have far more than 2 cartons worth of stuff to get rid of. The thought of doing on Apple's dime, however, does warm the cockles of my heart. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MacBook Pro warranty
Strange, I have this same ipod, I never experienced the problem of it coming on when I didn't want it to. On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Jeff Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the reasons why we often buy refurbs is that anything that's likely to go wrong has already happened, and the manufacturer usually does a thorough check of everything, at least Apple and Dell both do. For once, Betty and I agree on something. I would add to always stick with the OEM refurbs. The 30 GB Video iPod I bought was from a 3rd party refurber. The hold switch broke almost immediately after getting it. I didn't feel like going through the hassle and expense of RMA'ing it just for that. Little did I know that the poor design of the iPod not having a dedicated power button, and turning on with the merest pressure on the rotary control, would be constantly draining the tiny battery of the iPod. So, I may be returning it after all. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
