Re: [CGUYS] It's an app world, and it could swallow all computing

2010-04-03 Thread t.piwowar
On Apr 2, 2010, at 12:58 AM, Stewart Marshall wrote: This smart phone thing is getting competitive. I'm finding the terms on the iPad very interesting. 3G connectivity is sold on demand in by-the-month units. To start it is $15 for a capped connection. If I go over I can convert that to

[CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map

2010-04-03 Thread t.piwowar
For those who say that USA has rotten broadband speeds because we have such low population density, why is Canada ahead of US? http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2010/03/tech/map.broadband.speeds/index.html The real reason is lack of competition and 8 years of neocon rule resulting in no

Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map

2010-04-03 Thread Stewart Marshall
Less competition more regulation! Stewart At 09:48 AM 4/3/2010, you wrote: For those who say that USA has rotten broadband speeds because we have such low population density, why is Canada ahead of US? http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2010/03/tech/map.broadband.speeds/index.html The real

Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map

2010-04-03 Thread Chris Dunford
For those who say that USA has rotten broadband speeds because we have such low population density, why is Canada ahead of US? http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2010/03/tech/map.broadband.speeds/index.html Interesting factoid: Unless I missed someone, South Korea is the fastest in the world

Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map

2010-04-03 Thread Stewart Marshall
South Korea is pretty high tech. I think many of the LCD panels are made there. Stewart At 10:26 AM 4/3/2010, you wrote: For those who say that USA has rotten broadband speeds because we have such low population density, why is Canada ahead of US?

Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map

2010-04-03 Thread Steve at Verizon
Technically Canada has a low population density when you divide its population by the size of the country. However, it is highly concentrated. Over three quarters of its population lives within 90 miles of the US border. Also see this map of the distribution.

Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map

2010-04-03 Thread t.piwowar
On Apr 3, 2010, at 11:40 AM, Stewart Marshall wrote: I think many of the LCD panels are made there. But of course, it is LCD that make their broadband so fast. Why did I not think of that? America needs more LSD right away!

[CGUYS] iPad's in cars

2010-04-03 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
I see that at least one car maker, Hyundai, is already going to include an iPad as an accessory to at least one of their models. Look for more car makers to quickly follow suit. The iPhone or iPod Touch had screens too small to view movies or easily read and write e-mails or surf the web as

Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map

2010-04-03 Thread tjpa
On Apr 3, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Steve at Verizon wrote: Technically Canada has a low population density when you divide its population by the size of the country. However, it is highly concentrated. Over three quarters of its population lives within 90 miles of the US border. Also see this map

Re: [CGUYS] iPad's in cars

2010-04-03 Thread tjpa
On Apr 3, 2010, at 12:33 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: I see that at least one car maker, Hyundai, is already going to include an iPad as an accessory to at least one of their models It solves a big problem for car makers by letting them add many computerized features to the car without

Re: [CGUYS] iPad's in cars: The real ipad

2010-04-03 Thread mike
http://i.imgur.com/It9To.png On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 9:33 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: I see that at least one car maker, Hyundai, is already going to include an iPad as an accessory to at least one of their models. Look for more car makers to quickly follow suit. The

Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map

2010-04-03 Thread mike
The day must end in Y, Tom is blaming the neomicrosofticons again. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 7:48 AM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: The real reason is lack of competition and 8 years of neocon rule resulting in no national broadband policy.

Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map

2010-04-03 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Absolutely. My in-laws live 300+ miles north of the border. The services they can get and the cost are far, far different than what is offered in the lower half of the province. The farther you get from the border the more remote and rugged it gets. Leave any of the population dense sites

Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map

2010-04-03 Thread Michael Wosnick
Can't speak for others, but I am on an account with Rogers Cable Systems in Ontario that gets me consistently up to 25 Mbps speed. And there is an account type that is one higher than that which tops out at 50. Mind you it doesn't;t come cheap but there it is. And that it standard cable, not

Re: [CGUYS] iPad's in cars

2010-04-03 Thread chad evans wyatt
..and look for Hyundais to contribute to other kinds of hits, in short order...  the iPad will easily take care of that vexing problem.  There are already a number of vehicular mounts for the iPad, and you can bet that more will hit the stores very soon.   Steve -- WARNING: Due to a

Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map

2010-04-03 Thread mike
We have cable here like that, in most areas too...just not MINE which is what matters. heh On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Michael Wosnick mwosn...@rogers.comwrote: Can't speak for others, but I am on an account with Rogers Cable Systems in Ontario that gets me consistently up to 25 Mbps

Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map

2010-04-03 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
First you must live in a Rogers Cable served area. Stewart At 12:51 PM 4/3/2010, you wrote: Can't speak for others, but I am on an account with Rogers Cable Systems in Ontario that gets me consistently up to 25 Mbps speed. And there is an account type that is one higher than that which tops

Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map

2010-04-03 Thread Ellen Rains Harris
The Amen Corner checking in. Friends on the Lower North Shore of Quebec have neither dependable dial-up, nor hydro. - Original Message - From: Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 1:47 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map

2010-04-03 Thread tjpa
On Apr 3, 2010, at 1:45 PM, mike wrote: The day must end in Y, Tom is blaming the neomicrosofticons again. And the neomicrosofticons continue to insist that our slow connections are just fine and that any news of better service in other countries must be some statistical aberration. The

Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map

2010-04-03 Thread Eric S. Sande
For those who say that USA has rotten broadband speeds because we have such low population density, why is Canada ahead of US? A variety of reasons. The real question is how you define broadband. The speeds on the map are somewhat misleading. The FCC says that anything over 768 kBPS

Re: [CGUYS] iPad's in cars

2010-04-03 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 1:29 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: It solves a big problem for car makers by letting them add many computerized features to the car without having to go into the computer building business. They can just write apps or have somebody else write them. I wonder if the dock

Re: [CGUYS] iPad's in cars

2010-04-03 Thread mike
I saw a guy eating a bowl of cereal once while on the freeway. Why not compute? On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 1:11 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 1:29 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: It solves a big problem for car makers by letting them add many

Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map

2010-04-03 Thread tjpa
On Apr 3, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Eric S. Sande wrote: The speeds on the map are somewhat misleading. The FCC says that anything over 768 kBPS qualifies as broadband. Nothing in that says anything about symmetric or asymmetic (and they are setting the bar too low). So things in the USA are really

Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map

2010-04-03 Thread Stewart Marshall
In municipalities we are well served by high speed Net access. It is when you get on the fringes of these municipalities and into the suburban areas that there is a stark difference. There are a number of smaller towns in this area, 10K population or so that have varying degrees of service.

Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map

2010-04-03 Thread Eric S. Sande
So things in the USA are really much worse than the map would indicate. You are not making us feel better. Farthest thing from my mind (to not make you feel better). I'm saying that the data used to create that map is insufficiently granular, that's all. I wouldn't be privy to the

Re: [CGUYS] iPad's in cars

2010-04-03 Thread Jordan
I was just catching up on some of the technology videos at the NY Times site: http://video.nytimes.com/video/playlist/technology/1194811622271/index.html I think it was the video of their 2nd day of CES coverage where they had a guy talking about a new Garmin unit that can communicate with a

Re: [CGUYS] iPad's in cars

2010-04-03 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 4:57 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: I saw a guy eating a bowl of cereal once while on the freeway.  Why not compute? I agree. We all have to stop living in the past. Technology has shown us that there is another way. We need to begin to let the technology, and

[CGUYS] My download speed

2010-04-03 Thread Robert Carroll
Reading the Broadband Speed Map message, I checked my speed at http://www.wugnet.com/myspeed/speedtest.asp Download Speed is 10.0 Mbps Upload speed variable for 3 tests: 0.76 Mbps, 1.51 Mbps, and 1.6 Mbps. Don't know if this is good or bad. Advice, please. I have Verizon FIOS in Vienna,

Re: [CGUYS] iPad's in cars

2010-04-03 Thread Eric S. Sande
I agree. We all have to stop living in the past. No kidding. We can anticipate the iJack shortly. Absolutely painless. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy,

Re: [CGUYS] My download speed

2010-04-03 Thread Eric S. Sande
Don't know if this is good or bad. Advice, please. 10 mbps is basic LAN speed. That's broadband in my book. If that's what you're paying for that's what you should be getting. * ** List info, subscription

Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map

2010-04-03 Thread b_s-wilk
Can't speak for others, but I am on an account with Rogers Cable Systems in Ontario that gets me consistently up to 25 Mbps speed. And there is an account type that is one higher than that which tops out at 50. Mind you it doesn't;t come cheap but there it is. How much does Rogers Cable

Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map

2010-04-03 Thread Stewart Marshall
Right now it cold be Canadian or US. They are almost on par. Stewart At 10:44 PM 4/3/2010, you wrote: Can't speak for others, but I am on an account with Rogers Cable Systems in Ontario that gets me consistently up to 25 Mbps speed. And there is an account type that is one higher than that