Re: [CGUYS] Pro Apple Agitprop (on topic!)

2007-08-20 Thread b_s-wilk
Set a self-running slide show. Include a slide or two with simple "how-to" info. Put the info slide as every 5th slide or so. Do something to encourage people to touch the Mac. I used to throw soft-porn photos into preliminary slide presentations to keep the viewers awake. heh heh. It worked.

Re: [CGUYS] Bill Nye, the anti-God "Science Guy"

2007-08-20 Thread MrMike6by9
Seeing the Bill Nye post, I was reminded of a favorite song fragment ... [quote] he sun's a moon that warms you the moon's a sun with no heat the sky above is to remind you what's under your feet [unquote] --- Ben Harper, "Engraved Invitation" - Both Sides of the Gun -

Re: [CGUYS] Bill Nye, the anti-God "Science Guy"

2007-08-20 Thread db
While I agree about the "delete key", he does have a point though. The character and function of lists change as people who use the list change. If a lot of people using this list start talking progressively more off topic, then it is common list progression that's what the list becomes prog

Re: [CGUYS] The Topic [Was: Bill Nye, the anti-God "Science Guy"

2007-08-20 Thread Steve Rigby
On Aug 20, 2007, at 2:35 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: I mention this because it's important to discuss computers and technology in relation to everything else. Where one technology is denigrated, misrepresented, or worse, denied, others can also be adversely affected. I have been clobbered by your

Re: [CGUYS] Computer fan

2007-08-20 Thread db
The bearing is going out on one of them... one of the two moving part physical failings of computers. Short of unplugging one or the other, as Tom says, stick a plastic fork in one of them for a moment and you will know which one it is. Then replace it... db Robert wrote: I have a Dell

Re: [CGUYS] The Topic [Was: Bill Nye, the anti-God "Science Guy"

2007-08-20 Thread b_s-wilk
SciFri "The World is Flat" podcast linky: http://snipurl.com/1pq37 All SciFri podcasts: http://www.sciencefriday.com/feed/ August can also be the time for good rants! Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, let's hear more! Health care, religion, breaking 'Net Neutrality', poisoned food [this week it's "organ

Re: [CGUYS] 30,000 Text Messages a Month?

2007-08-20 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
They must provide you a means to receive your bill she admitted as much on TV. They do not have to account for each text message or data packet served though. Like Is aid Verizon details each phone call, but only gives me a lump sum of text and data (Believe me I do not want a complete listin

Re: [CGUYS] 30,000 Text Messages a Month?

2007-08-20 Thread mike
She's not just sending text, she's getting updates for twitter. If she has two dozen friends she's watching, that could be hundreds and hundreds a day alone there. I also think, I'm not sure, but by law the telcos have to give you the option of a paper bill. AT$T lets you go all digital though i

Re: [CGUYS] Advice about a Mac

2007-08-20 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Mac OS 10.4.x is VERY stable and dependable. Warning, the latest, X.4.10 is not stable and dependable. Stick with X.4.9 or wait for X.4.11, which is supposed to be mostly a bug fix for X.4.10. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND RE

Re: [CGUYS] 30,000 Text Messages a Month?

2007-08-20 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I have been a Verizon customer for many ears now and with 4 phones two teenagers I have never gotten a bill that had to be boxed. My oldest is at college and he uses his phone as a landline phone. He text messages with the best of them. I have had to pay overages for both text and phone serv

Re: [CGUYS] 30,000 Text Messages a Month?

2007-08-20 Thread Tom Piwowar
>the phone bill cost AT$T seven bux just to send it to her. While it is distressing to think of someone sending 1,000 text messages a day, it is even more distressing to have a supposed technology company -- AT&T -- be so ignorant about how the technology they sell is used. Apple handed AT&T th

Re: [CGUYS] Bill Nye, the anti-God "Science Guy"

2007-08-20 Thread Mike Sloane
The problems with this situation is that the whole discussion centers around interpretation. On one side is the fact that fundamentalists center their beliefs on the King James translation of ancient Hebrew texts (which were, of course, transcriptions of even more ancient oral tradition). And e

Re: [CGUYS] Pro Apple Agitprop (on topic!)

2007-08-20 Thread Steve Rigby
On Aug 20, 2007, at 12:03 AM, b_s-wilk wrote: Why not start with using photos of the art as your screensaver. Select a folder of art so that the pictures will fade in and fade to the next photo as people walk by. That could spark some curiosity. Tell them how easy it is to do that, then show th

Re: [CGUYS] Bill Nye, the anti-God "Science Guy"

2007-08-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It may be a bit late in the thread to return to the original debate. However, being a highly secular person myself, I have to fault Mr. Nye for having pointed out the "inaccuracy" of the biblical text as part of his lecture. Anybody who made it through elementary school knows that the moon doe