Re: [CGUYS] first iMac question ug Vista
Any particular wife or just one of the bunch ? I have just loaded XP onto a new MacBook Pro and it's running quite well - now. I'm using Bootcamp which is the Apple provided software for making their computers bootup with Windows. Parallels on the other hand allows the Mac OS the Windows OS to operate side by side without rebooting. Not surprisingly this requires considerably more resources from the hardware in terms of RAM. Unless you have some crying need for Vista I would suggest that XP will make like easier and perhaps zippier. Also take care with things like Windows updates. Both Bootcamp and Parallels make some assumptions about what they expect in the way of a Windows OS. If you update things needlessly you could break those expectations. The need for virus protection and other such prophylactics that are needed to protect Windows from the cold, cruel world go away IF you use the Mac OS for email and web browsing and restrict the Windows OS to local operations only. And exactly what is a ' UG ' anyway ? == in reply to ... Bought wife a new iMac 2.4g 24. lots of questions. got parallels, now she says she needs a(n) MS OS. I think all Vista UG needs to see XP to UG. can she use a new copy of vista UG and one of the xp's we have laying around to load vista on her machine? does she want/need the 64 bit version? -- E. Riley Casey Silver Spring MD 301-608-2180 ph 301-608-0789 fx 301-440-2923 shoe phone Entertainment Sound Production ( http://www.ESPsound.com ) * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access
I couldn't tell from web sites what the Apple routers can do. My Netgear MIMO allows me to schedule when blocking occurs and to use patterns for blocking (like runescape, or even rune to block runescape.com and rune-hq.com). I would think that if you couldn't find it via the web configuration interface, it probably isn't there. On 9/22/07, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My original intent was to control the time a site would be available. Not to pretend it does not exist. Not particularly interested in censorship. Just moderating any particular sites availability. Soon as I get a chance I'll see if OpenDNS will fit the bill. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING!!!!
What I can't get past is that we, or society is gov't. The federal gov't was built only very specific powers. What it wasn't given remained with the states.. more specifically the people. It's still up to us. So again, what I don't understand is why we seem to want out of our obligations (defined as societal/moral/ etc). Why are we always looking to the state beyond its mandate? We have a very capable, and flexible nonprofit sector constantly experimenting with these issues and more. Gov't loves the NPS as it provides a reliable proving ground. As gov't crowds out the NPS in more arenas, while our civil society will never go away, I worry it will become smaller or less vibrant similar to those in the rest of the world. cb On Sep 23, 2007, at 2:51 PM, Randy wrote: I believe you are correct; hence the logical (and moral) inconsistency of those (mostly liberals and Democrats) who simultaneously demand that WalMart and maybe other employers provide more health coverage while also seeking universal health care, usually through the federal government. Meanwhile, somewhat ironically, Republican Governors in California and Massachusetts have helped move their states towards providing universal health care. The rationale for employer-based health coverage no longer exists, as the circumstances which gave rise to this many decades ago have changed dramatically. If people believe there is an ethical obligation to provide health care coverage for all who want and need it (as I do; at least for legal citizens) than this obligation should fall naturally on society, and therefore on society's main instrument of exercising its explicit obligations - government; not on employers. That is, we should assume this obligation and the costs of doing so, not, as we are wont to do, pass it off onto others, such as large employers. Personally, the model that makes the most sense to me of those I heard about is a single payer system; but I would add a lot of significant sticks and carrots to incentivize behavior likely to lead to good health and thus lower costs, while disincentivizing behavior likely to do the opposite. I would extend this to the radical notion that people who are not able, at least at the moment, to provide for their children should be discouraged - as an ethical matter - from having children they cannot support, and therefore are likely to look to government to assume, in effect, this parental responsibility. Of course, no mainstream politician or public figure would ever dare raise the ethics of having an unlimited right to reproduce irrespective of the consequences of exercising that right, but the issue is both logically and morally linked to the argument that society or someone has an obligation to provide for health care coverage for all persons, particularly those who cannot afford or access it on their own. What does this have to do with computers? Nothing, directly, but since others are discussing this here, this is my 2 cents. Randall - Original Message - From: Matthew Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING I can see an argument that society has an obligation to provide health care to all, and that government is the best means to achieve that. I do not see that the obligation, if extant, should in any way fall on employers. If one accepted that argument, that an economic entity that employs a person obligated to provide healthcare to that person, then every mom and pop enterprise, every individual who ever hired a kid to mow the lawn, would logically and ethically share the obligation, for the size of the employer does not bear upon the obligation, only its practicality. That is not Scrooge refusing to give to charity, for charity by its definition is voluntary, not obligatory. Matthew On Sep 20, 2007, at 3:18 PM, Constance Warner wrote: Does Walmart have some inherent obligation to pay healthcare? There Might be a business case to do so...but that does not translate into an obligation. COMMENT: `Are there no prisons?'' asked Scrooge. * *** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: ComputerGuys-L- [EMAIL PROTECTED] * *** * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ * RSS at
Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 21 Sep 2007 - Special issue (#2007-671)
Decision made ...I bought a WD-1200VE 5400 120GB which NewEgg had bundled with Apricorn kit (chickened out on the 7200 as some posts said the thing is a real heater, and chickened out as my Norton Ghost 2003 refuses to auto update and Norton site says I need ver 775 to do it via USB2, also, can use the apricorn housing for the old drive which works fine although some say it is flimsy) ...called WD which has a seemingly identical drive WD-1200BEVE and their tech said BEVE is a minor update but really the same. When it comes, I will report. Thanks to all. -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Announcements and Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 2:21 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 21 Sep 2007 - Special issue (#2007-671) * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] x31 HDD upgrade
...oh yeah, why did I choose WD ?? ...postings said it's the quietest of all. In my Dell 4400 desktop the WD (which was so quiet I had to look at the light to see if the box was running) failed after over 5 yrs and I replaced it with a Seagate Barracuda which is noisier, not real bad but not quiet. In the x31 I have a Toshiba 5400 and it's very quiet. The cooling fan almost never comes on. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] x31 HDD upgrade
What is the warranty on the WD? Mike On 9/23/07, rlsimon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...oh yeah, why did I choose WD ?? ...postings said it's the quietest of all. In my Dell 4400 desktop the WD (which was so quiet I had to look at the light to see if the box was running) failed after over 5 yrs and I replaced it with a Seagate Barracuda which is noisier, not real bad but not quiet. In the x31 I have a Toshiba 5400 and it's very quiet. The cooling fan almost never comes on. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] first iMac question ug Vista
At 04:12 PM 9/23/2007, you wrote: Date:Sun, 23 Sep 2007 07:41:51 -0400 From:Wayne Dernoncourt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: first iMac question ug Vista gerald does she want to load Vista, or would she be better off with XP? again, will a new UG work? From everything I've read, Windows Vista is Windows XP with more security stuff turned on breaking drivers and programs but doing a better job at security. Good in some respects, bad in others. Since playing HD DVD's isn't a big deal on this Mac, I don't need Vista. Security Now has had podcasts about Vista along with Windows Weekly(??). I did something similar. I bought a Mac Parallels this past summer and went to Best Buy and bought a copy of Windows XP. I had lots of problems installing it and tech support said We think you have an upgrade copy... I looked and I had bought an upgrade copy. I had never noticed. Best Buy wouldn't take it back (no exchange plus cash if for the right one if they would've had any). So I ordered one from Buy.com, ten minutes after I clicked buy, I realized I needed some stuff from amazon.com, bought it there, went back to buy.com to cancel, clicked cancel, they said okay. A day and half later, I get an email saying Oooops, the order had already gone into the system. Contact us for an RMA and we will take it back. I'm still waiting for the stuff for amazon.com to show up, I don't remember what is slowing things down, but in the end I'm going to either have two copies of Windows XP Home or have to hassle with sending one back. Long and short, I'm going to have a copy of Windows XP Home here if you are interested. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly Managing senior programmers is like herding cats! Wayne, I hope you did not pay any more than $95 for your xp home? The Computer place in va and MD both sell xp home OEM version for around $95 and is allowed to be installed without going and paying full retail for the xp.. check out their site at http://www.tcponline.com their prices for oem operating systems (sorry only MD G) http://www.tcponline.com/Softwares_operating_systems.htm Rich * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] first iMac question ug Vista
Vista is more than XP with security turned on. It's built in. Since security, or the lack there of, is one of XP's major flaws, I say that's sufficient reason to choose Vista. If you're going to use Parallels, keep in mind that you must buy a business edition of Vista (vs one of the home editions) to legally use it with Parallels or receive any Parallels customer support. -- Forwarded Message From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 11:18:41 -0400 Subject: Re: first iMac question ug Vista At 09:54 AM 9/23/2007, you wrote: Any particular wife or just one of the bunch ? the current one. I do not perform maintenance on the prior ones. And exactly what is a ' UG ' anyway ? Up Grade MS has a dozen or so flavors of each piece of software. == in reply to ... * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived -- End of Forwarded Message * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] first iMac question ug Vista
There are four flavors of Vista. Home, Home basic, Business and Business Premium. Of the four the upper two are the best of the bunch and from what I understand the only ones MS Legal to run on parallels. However you will also pay a premium. Also note that when you get into Vista there are numerous programs that have not been tweaked for Vista. The first question that needs to be asked is, if she is installing Parallels and wants to run Windows is she doing it for a specific piece of hardware or software? If she is doing it for a particular piece of hardware do they have Drivers for Vista? Will it run in Vista? if it is software the same questions should be asked. I can see no reason to buy Vista Business or Business premium if what she wants to do will run in XP. (Price for XP 95-105 and up. Vista Business 259-up) I have no problems with XP. I run an antivirus (Free) and have my system behind a router with a firewall. I use Eudora for my email and I trash all email and attachments I do not know Stewart At 06:42 PM 9/23/2007, you wrote: Vista is more than XP with security turned on. It's built in. Since security, or the lack there of, is one of XP's major flaws, I say that's sufficient reason to choose Vista. If you're going to use Parallels, keep in mind that you must buy a business edition of Vista (vs one of the home editions) to legally use it with Parallels or receive any Parallels customer support. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
