[CGUYS] CPCUG Programmers SIG: Ruby on Rails, *This* Wednesday
Wednesday, October 3, 7:00-10:00 pm Capital PC User Group (CPCUG) Programmers SIG RUBY ON RAILS Speaker: Brian Moelk, Brain Endeavor, LLC Location: Inter-American Development Bank (Annex Building) 1350 New York Avenue, NW, Room B-300, Washington, DC Metrorail (two stations within two blocks): o Metro Center: Red, Blue, and Orange Lines o McPherson Square: Green and Yellow Lines Directions and map: http://programmers.cpcug.org/directions.htm Featured speaker Brian Moelk will discuss Ruby on Rails, the hot Web development framework. He'll begin with a quick introduction to the Ruby language and Rails framework, build a simple application, and demonstrate how Rails takes care of a lot of the grunt work. Discussion will include a technical as well as a cultural comparison of the Delphi type of RAD with the Rails framework approach, which many Java Web developers find appealing. Ruby tools such as CodeGear's new Ruby on Rails IDE, 3rd Rail, will be demoed. (Tools, however, will not be the focus of the presentation.) Time permitting, Brian Moelk will discuss how Ruby is already expanding (JRuby, IronRuby, YARV) and some Rails-like frameworks such as Grails and g-framework. Speaker: Brian Moelk has been programming for most of his life. His formal training began with Turbo Pascal, and he has been working with Delphi since it first came out. Since then, coding Delphi, C++, and Java, he's been a part of two start-ups in the Washington, DC, area. Brian owns and runs Brain Endeavor, LLC, and cannot conceive of doing anything other than crafting great code and helping companies use technology effectively. When not coding, he enjoys cycling, soccer, movies, music, and being in the moment. Optional Networking/Socializing: Before the meeting, about 6:15 pm, we get together informally at the Shops at National Place International Food Court, southwest corner of 13th F St., NW, Lower Level. Special Guest: Marco Cantu, Author, _Delphi 2007 Handbook_, the guide to what's new in Delphi 2007 for Win32, best-selling author of the Mastering Delphi Series. For more information about the CPCUG Programmers SIG-- http://programmers.cpcug.org/ --Mark Leymaster, for SIG Chair Tom Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] iMac monitors
I just helped a friend pick out a portable Mac (bought a Macbook Pro with a 15 monitor). The Macbook Pro came with a choice of monitors -- matte screen or glare screen. My friend chose the matte screen. My guess (my hope!) is that the iMacs also come with a choice of screens. The glare screen looks annoying. Mical Wilmoth Carton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wife just got a 24 iMac. monitor is superb. has stupid gloss finish, so if bright lights around, can have reflection problems. the rest of the world has matt finish. i think early imacs have matt finish. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] iMac monitors
My 15 MBP has the matte screen. Its not as matte as the older white iBook screens, but is nothing like the new glossy. I'm very happy with my choice. I work with lots of overhead light and the reflections on other glossy screens is distracting to me. The glossy is nice and makes for a beautiful display, but I couldn't take the reflection. If that issue is important to you its worth clarifying before purchase. A trip to an Apple store or other retail place, or to see a friend's new iMac is what I'd do. cb On Oct 2, 2007, at 10:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just helped a friend pick out a portable Mac (bought a Macbook Pro with a 15 monitor). The Macbook Pro came with a choice of monitors -- matte screen or glare screen. My friend chose the matte screen. My guess (my hope!) is that the iMacs also come with a choice of screens. The glare screen looks annoying. Mical Wilmoth Carton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wife just got a 24 iMac. monitor is superb. has stupid gloss finish, so if bright lights around, can have reflection problems. the rest of the world has matt finish. i think early imacs have matt finish. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: ComputerGuys-L- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] LCD Monitor aspect ratios
I'll admit it did seem a bit strange at first but it was explained in the Acer Brochure: http://static.tigerdirect.com/pdf/Acer-Widescreen-Guide.pdf The different aspect ratio accommodates Vista's Live Sidebar features. I'm not planning on watching HD movies nor do my video work on this so the 16:10 shouldn't bother me (I'm not Vista yet either). I saw one today and it really looked good but they were out of stock until??? Richard P. Tony B wrote: The monitor market changes weekly, so it's sometimes hard to rely on product reviews for the latest deals. But this quote from the article jumped out at me: this monitor has 16:10 aspect ratio, which is considerably more favorable than some similarly priced monitors. What a pain. Apparently someone is selling 16:9 ATSC monitors alongside 16:10 computer monitors? http://reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/acer-al1916w-flat-panel/4505-3174_7-31652355.html * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
Cell phone numbers going public tomorrow REMINDERall cell phone numbers are being released to telemarketing companies tomorrow and you will start to receive sale calls. .YOU WILL BE CHARGED FOR THESE CALLS To prevent this, call the following number from your cell phone: 888-382-1222. It is the National DO NOT CALL list. It will only take a minute of your time It blocks your number for five (5) years. You must call from the cell phone number you want to have blocked. You cannot call from a different phone number. one can also register here: https://donotcall.gov/ * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
From the FTC website http://www.ftc.gov/donotcall Did you get an email claiming that your cell phone is about to be assaulted by telemarketing calls because of a new cell phone number database? Those claims are not true. In fact, federal law prohibits telemarketers from using automated dialers to call cell phones. You may place your personal cell phone number on the National Do Not Call Registry, but there is generally no reason to do so. For more information, see the FTC's press release The Truth about Cell Phones and the Do Not Call Registry. http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2007/02/dnccellphones.htm * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
Please check out your info before sending it to a list. http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2007/02/dnccellphones.shtm Stewart At 02:57 PM 10/2/2007, you wrote: Cell phone numbers going public tomorrow REMINDERall cell phone numbers are being released to telemarketing companies tomorrow and you will start to receive sale calls. .YOU WILL BE CHARGED FOR THESE CALLS To prevent this, call the following number from your cell phone: 888-382-1222. It is the National DO NOT CALL list. It will only take a minute of your time It blocks your number for five (5) years. You must call from the cell phone number you want to have blocked. You cannot call from a different phone number. one can also register here: https://donotcall.gov/ * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
From the governments web page: Did you get an email claiming that your cell phone is about to be assaulted by telemarketing calls because of a new cell phone number database? Those claims are not true. In fact, federal law prohibits telemarketers from using automated dialers to call cell phones. You may place your personal cell phone number on the National Do Not Call Registry, but there is generally no reason to do so. For more information, see the FTC's press release The Truth about Cell Phones and the Do Not Call Registry. The Truth about Cell Phones and the Do Not Call Registry Despite Re-Circulating E-mail, It is Still Not Necessary to Register Cell Phone Numbers As the number of phone numbers on the National Do Not Call (DNC) Registry surpassed 139 million, the Federal Trade Commission today reiterated that despite the claims made in e-mails circulating on the Internet, consumers should not be concerned that their cell phone numbers will be released to telemarketers at any time in the near future. In addition, according to the agency, it is not necessary to register cell phone numbers on the DNC Registry to be protected from most telemarketing calls to cell phones. The truth about cell phones and the DNC Registry is: Contrary to the e-mail, cell phone numbers are NOT being released to telemarketers, and you will NOT soon be getting telemarketing calls on your cell phone. There is NO deadline by which you must register your cell phone number on the Registry. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) regulations prohibit telemarketers from using automated dialers to call cell phone numbers. Automated dialers are standard in the industry, so most telemarketers are barred from calling consumers on their cell phones without their consent. The national associations representing telemarketers have stated that their clients do not intend to start calling consumers’ cell phones. There is only ONE DNC Registry. There is no separate registry for cell phones. The DNC Registry accepts registrations from both cell phones and land lines. You must call from the phone number that you want to register. If you register online, you must respond to a confirmation e-mail. While the telecommunications industry has been discussing the possibility of creating a wireless 411 directory, according to the FCC, even if a wireless 411 directory is established, most telemarketing calls to cell phones would still be illegal, regardless of whether the number is listed on the federal government’s National Do Not Call Registry. For More Information To learn more about the National DNC Registry and the rules that enforce it, visit the FTC at www.ftc.gov or the FCC at www.fcc.gov. For more information about a planned “wireless 411” directory, visit http://www.qsent.com/wireless411. The FTC works for the consumer to prevent fraudulent, deceptive, and unfair business practices in the marketplace and to provide information to help consumers spot, stop, and avoid them. To file a complaint in English or Spanish (bilingual counselors are available to take complaints), or to get free information on any of 150 consumer topics, call toll-free, 1-877-FTC-HELP (1-877-382-4357), or use the complaint form at http://www.ftc.gov. The FTC enters Internet, telemarketing, identity theft, and other fraud-related complaints into Consumer Sentinel, a secure, online database available to hundreds of civil and criminal law enforcement agencies in the U.S. and abroad. Media Contact: Mitchell J. Katz Office of Public Affairs 202-326-2161 Staff Contact: David Robbins Bureau of Consumer Protection 202-326-3747 On Oct 2, 2007, at 3:57 PM, gerald wrote: Cell phone numbers going public tomorrow REMINDERall cell phone numbers are being released to telemarketing companies tomorrow and you will start to receive sale calls. .YOU WILL BE CHARGED FOR THESE CALLS To prevent this, call the following number from your cell phone: 888-382-1222. It is the National DO NOT CALL list. It will only take a minute of your time It blocks your number for five (5) years. You must call from the cell phone number you want to have blocked. You cannot call from a different phone number. one can also register here: https://donotcall.gov/ ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: ComputerGuys-L- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** * List archive
Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
I was listening to NPR last night and they were discussing polls and how accurate they are as they do not call those who have only a cell phone. They mentioned that many pollsters do not call Cell phones as they ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE AUTOMATIC Dialers on cell phones and it is not worth their time or effort to manually dial cell phone numbers. Believe me telemarketers are not going to take the time to manually dial your cell phone number to sell you something. It is not cost effective. Stewart At 03:24 PM 10/2/2007, you wrote: From the FTC website http://www.ftc.gov/donotcall Did you get an email claiming that your cell phone is about to be assaulted by telemarketing calls because of a new cell phone number database? Those claims are not true. In fact, federal law prohibits telemarketers from using automated dialers to call cell phones. You may place your personal cell phone number on the National Do Not Call Registry, but there is generally no reason to do so. For more information, see the FTC's press release The Truth about Cell Phones and the Do Not Call Registry. http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2007/02/dnccellphones.htm Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
I think it is necessary to register cellphones (unless you enjoy wasting your time and minutes listening through all the voicemail spam before you are allowed to delete it). Ours were inundated until we put them on the list. We also got the occasional text message spam until we had it disabled. I don't know if text message spam is covered under Do Not Call (?). Richard P. Michel Lowe wrote: It's a good idea to register your LAND LINE with the do not call registry if you haven't already, but it is unnecessary for cell phones. -Mike * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
Yes, with increasing use of cell phones, especially by those who have no other phones (disproportionately younger folks so far) polling sampling accuracy is becoming more problematic. Maybe this will ultimately be a good thing, since polling now drives the political process as much as reflecting it. Randall - Original Message - From: Rev. Stewart Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call I was listening to NPR last night and they were discussing polls and how accurate they are as they do not call those who have only a cell phone. They mentioned that many pollsters do not call Cell phones as they ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE AUTOMATIC Dialers on cell phones and it is not worth their time or effort to manually dial cell phone numbers. Believe me telemarketers are not going to take the time to manually dial your cell phone number to sell you something. It is not cost effective. Stewart At 03:24 PM 10/2/2007, you wrote: From the FTC website http://www.ftc.gov/donotcall Did you get an email claiming that your cell phone is about to be assaulted by telemarketing calls because of a new cell phone number database? Those claims are not true. In fact, federal law prohibits telemarketers from using automated dialers to call cell phones. You may place your personal cell phone number on the National Do Not Call Registry, but there is generally no reason to do so. For more information, see the FTC's press release The Truth about Cell Phones and the Do Not Call Registry. http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2007/02/dnccellphones.htm Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1044 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 11:10 AM * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
At 04:06 PM 10/2/2007, you wrote: I think it is necessary to register cellphones (unless you enjoy wasting your time and minutes listening through all the voicemail spam before you are allowed to delete it). Ours were inundated until we put them on the list. We also got the occasional text message spam until we had it disabled. I don't know if text message spam is covered under Do Not Call (?). I VERY rarely turn my cell phone on. I carry it for emergency or for my own convenience. I turned it on last week for the first time in probably 2 mo., and there were 8 voice mails. I guess you have to call a number to get them? It's a prepaid TracFone. I didn't. I finally figured out how to delete them. I've given that number to 2 friends plus the nursing home (who insist I sign my friend out to a phone number when I take her out). My friends know I don't have the phone on unless we've made those arrangements. So I'm pretty sure those were spam calls. I'm not going to spend my minutes calling to listen to spam voicemails. Or wrong numbers, if that's what it was. I use up my 500 minutes--or whatever it is that I'm required to buy each year--in calling some LD friends toward the end of my year. I honestly don't want people finding me when I'm not home. They can leave a msg at home and I'll call them back. Most ppl who know me know they can reach me on email just as fast anyway. I actually had to get rude with a woman who came into my shop today. We started our transaction, and her cell phone rang. She proceeded with a conversation with her daughter--simple chit-chat. Meanwhile, I'm standing there waiting to finish with her. I did finally say something to her. Like I had nothing better to do than to wait while she finished her conversation? Sue * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] web hosting question from a newbie
I am a webmaster for a local non-profit organization that has previously had its web host supplied to the organization by a third party. That party charges the organization for hosting but does not reveal any details at all, such as the bandwidth supplied or used. I'm thinking that the organization might be better off selecting its own web host, but I am a novice when it comes to selecting an appropriate host. Also, the non-profit's web address is currently owned by the third party. (I am a member of the non-profit who volunteers to be a webmaster.) The organization is small and almost all of its bandwidth is used for outgoing web traffic. The storage requirement is well under 100 megabytes and my guesstimate of outgoing traffic would be 4 Gigabytes per month peak with much lower amount during some months. Googleing for web hosts, I see quite a wide range of charges for a seemingly suitable amount of service, ranging from $12 per year (3iX) to $80 per year (Mailaka). The higher figure is less than half the charge that the non-profit currently pays. While I understand the basics of web hosts, I don't know the details or pitfalls that may lurk. Any advice to help me decide whether to switch hosts and how to select a new host? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] web hosting question from a newbie
Two separate questions. Web hosting Domain registration I found this out earlier this year when ours was about to expire. Many companies (who host websites) will gladly register your domain name, but then their name gets attached to it somehow as they are resellers of the registration (I was told this not so sure how much to believe) I just avoided all that crap and registered with Directnic. www.directnic.com You can register your website with them and get free web hosting space. That is what our non-profit did and we are more than happy. Stewart At 04:49 PM 10/2/2007, you wrote: I am a webmaster for a local non-profit organization that has previously had its web host supplied to the organization by a third party. That party charges the organization for hosting but does not reveal any details at all, such as the bandwidth supplied or used. I'm thinking that the organization might be better off selecting its own web host, but I am a novice when it comes to selecting an appropriate host. Also, the non-profit's web address is currently owned by the third party. (I am a member of the non-profit who volunteers to be a webmaster.) The organization is small and almost all of its bandwidth is used for outgoing web traffic. The storage requirement is well under 100 megabytes and my guesstimate of outgoing traffic would be 4 Gigabytes per month peak with much lower amount during some months. Googleing for web hosts, I see quite a wide range of charges for a seemingly suitable amount of service, ranging from $12 per year (3iX) to $80 per year (Mailaka). The higher figure is less than half the charge that the non-profit currently pays. While I understand the basics of web hosts, I don't know the details or pitfalls that may lurk. Any advice to help me decide whether to switch hosts and how to select a new host? Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
Hear, Hear! I'm not a fan of cell phones either. They are frustrating to use, voice quality is poor at best and non-existent at worst, the battery is dead in a day (from my house) or in an hour (when I'm on vacation in the mountains), the contracts offered boil my blood, the phones break down well before the contract is out, and they are very expensive. But then I'm an old codger who likes viewing Charlie Chaplin and the Marx Brothers movies. My young daughters use cell phones instead of land lines. Can't think why. They have finally given up trying to call my cell phone (either it doesn't work, or battery is dead, or I won't answer it because I can't find it). When they come to my house their own cell phones don't work well because I dwell in the wilderness: downtown Vienna, Virginia, just off the Capital Beltway. What I can't understand is why clothes haven't kept up with the modern trend in devices. My father always put his pocket watch in the pocket made in men's pants for the purpose. These were a snug pocket for watches on the right side of pants just underneath the belt -- all men's pants had them until about 1955. My father reluctantly had to switch to a wristwatch when the watch pocket was removed from pants. Today, there ought to be a separate pocket in everyone's clothes each for the cell phone, the GPS device, the iPod, the subcompact digital camera, the pocket PC (if it still exists), the digital passport, and a portable radio/tv. I think I have missed an important device that deserves its pocket! Sue Cubic wrote: I VERY rarely turn my cell phone on. I carry it for emergency or for my own convenience. I turned it on last week for the first time in probably 2 mo., and there were 8 voice mails. I guess you have to call a number to get them? It's a prepaid TracFone. I didn't. I finally figured out how to delete them. I've given that number to 2 friends plus the nursing home (who insist I sign my friend out to a phone number when I take her out). My friends know I don't have the phone on unless we've made those arrangements. So I'm pretty sure those were spam calls. I'm not going to spend my minutes calling to listen to spam voicemails. Or wrong numbers, if that's what it was. I use up my 500 minutes--or whatever it is that I'm required to buy each year--in calling some LD friends toward the end of my year. I honestly don't want people finding me when I'm not home. They can leave a msg at home and I'll call them back. Most ppl who know me know they can reach me on email just as fast anyway. I actually had to get rude with a woman who came into my shop today. We started our transaction, and her cell phone rang. She proceeded with a conversation with her daughter--simple chit-chat. Meanwhile, I'm standing there waiting to finish with her. I did finally say something to her. Like I had nothing better to do than to wait while she finished her conversation? Sue * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] web hosting question from a newbie
Thank you for your reply. As I mentioned in my original message, the domain registration belongs to the web host -- registered by it. If we were to switch web hosts, how could we retain the same domain name? Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Two separate questions. Web hosting Domain registration I found this out earlier this year when ours was about to expire. Many companies (who host websites) will gladly register your domain name, but then their name gets attached to it somehow as they are resellers of the registration (I was told this not so sure how much to believe) I just avoided all that crap and registered with Directnic. www.directnic.com You can register your website with them and get free web hosting space. That is what our non-profit did and we are more than happy. Stewart * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] web hosting question from a newbie
Technically it belongs to you not them. They registered it for you. Ask them for it, and if they are reputable they should allow you to move it. Otherwise get a new one. Stewart At 05:40 PM 10/2/2007, you wrote: Thank you for your reply. As I mentioned in my original message, the domain registration belongs to the web host -- registered by it. If we were to switch web hosts, how could we retain the same domain name? Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Two separate questions. Web hosting Domain registration I found this out earlier this year when ours was about to expire. Many companies (who host websites) will gladly register your domain name, but then their name gets attached to it somehow as they are resellers of the registration (I was told this not so sure how much to believe) I just avoided all that crap and registered with Directnic. www.directnic.com You can register your website with them and get free web hosting space. That is what our non-profit did and we are more than happy. Stewart * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
