Re: [CGUYS] [IP] Re: U.S. Agents Seize Travelers' Devices
At 10:29 PM 2/9/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry, my post was a direct response to the previous comment regarding airport security in France. I don't recall the original post. I can't recall having personally had any problems with Customs. I think they mostly harass foreigners. However it distresses me that there are people who are discouraged from travelling to the US because of horror stories they've heard regarding US customs, despite the favorable exchange rate. France is one of a very few western countries where strong encryption is illegal or requires a license. Gutmann has a file about someone at IBM saying they had to turn over their strong encryption keys to the French authorities, and then began losing bids. So they sent messages with high bid information by electronic means and sent a courier with the real bid. All the French bids underbid the electronic bid, but overbid the real bid. Keep stuff on your server in the US. Even run the encryption in "Traveler" mode with the software on your network server. But is SSL or VPN is compromised, then you're in trouble anyhow. Except that if those are compromised they won't do anything because they want to keep the secret for the big fish, just as Churchill did not warn about the Coventry raid because he wanted to retain the Enigma secret. On 2/9/08 19:35, "David Chessler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Read it again. It's not the TSA. It's customs, and it's not clear > what threat they're defending against: pornography, or perhaps you > have some drugs in your hard drive. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Truecrypt Encryption
At 09:49 PM 2/9/2008, Tony B wrote: I'm not sure I believe this. Once it's been determined you've used TC, wouldn't there then be an assumption the outer container was just an outer container? I mean, a "robber's purse" is not a new concept. Check the documentation. The source code is on line. Basically, random data on your computer, without headers or other obvious ways of identifying it, is a real problem to identify as such. There are ways of identifying "steganography" because of the way the data is hidden in the "photograph" or whatever, pretending to be noise. The documentation on this is fairly convincing, and it seems to have some good people behind it. That is, even if the data is identified as encryption, the encryption is still apparently secure. > Creates a virtual drive inside of any object of your choosing. But > goes one better. You can encrypt within the encryption in ways > undetectable. Thus you can give a password and allow others to open > it and inspect. Those looking will never know that within the > encrypted space there is another deeper form of encryption. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] [IP] Re: U.S. Agents Seize Travelers' Devices / US technical work visas.
Border/ travel security is the least of it. The best technical talents from all over the world are looking less and less to the US for jobs because of the disadvantageous work visa and naturalization situation in the US. I have an extremely well educated, and talented Indian friend who has been working for Amazon in the US for 4 years. After bucking the US naturalization process for 4 years, he has decided, like many of his friends that he is going to emigrate to Canada, get a job there and quit amazon because he can become a citizen there in 1 - 1/2 years (with his skills but even WITHOUT a job) where in the US he it is probably he will have to wait for 7 years. Presently, every 3 years during his work visa renewal process he can't leave the US for travel purposes for 6 months and if he lost his Amazon job he would have to leave the US in 7 days (this varies from state to state) making it very difficult to change jobs unless he can make it seamless and making his life in general no more than a transient one. Because of this situation, he hasn't bought a house here although he can well afford one... He well paid but treated like a indentured servant. And now that he can get paid equally well elsewhere he and many like him are leaving the US. db [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry, my post was a direct response to the previous comment regarding airport security in France. I don't recall the original post. I can't recall having personally had any problems with Customs. I think they mostly harass foreigners. However it distresses me that there are people who are discouraged from travelling to the US because of horror stories they've heard regarding US customs, despite the favorable exchange rate. On 2/9/08 19:35, "David Chessler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Read it again. It's not the TSA. It's customs, and it's not clear what threat they're defending against: pornography, or perhaps you have some drugs in your hard drive. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] [IP] Re: U.S. Agents Seize Travelers' Devices
I'm sorry, my post was a direct response to the previous comment regarding airport security in France. I don't recall the original post. I can't recall having personally had any problems with Customs. I think they mostly harass foreigners. However it distresses me that there are people who are discouraged from travelling to the US because of horror stories they've heard regarding US customs, despite the favorable exchange rate. On 2/9/08 19:35, "David Chessler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Read it again. It's not the TSA. It's customs, and it's not clear > what threat they're defending against: pornography, or perhaps you > have some drugs in your hard drive. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] QuickBooks Pro
We've been using Quickbooks and it as met our needs. At first we had to run Softwindows to run it on our Mac. Then when they made the Mac version capable of saving a Windows version of our data, we switched to the Mac version. We have been happy with it (QuickBooks Pro 6), but as I said earlier our Account wanted us to upgrade. I just want to be aware of any problems and ways to avoid them before I install it. Steve Fred Holmes wrote: I've been told that QuickBooks isn't capable of tracking funding sources, i.e. automatically ensuring that funds received (e.g., a grant) for a specific purpose are being spent for that purpose. I don't use Quickbooks, and it may be possible to add additional fields to the "stock" accounting database that would accomplish this. Such additional fields may require a higher level of training than most folks get. Fred Holmes At 11:59 AM 2/9/2008, Stephen Brownfield wrote: I recently purchased QuickBooks Pro Mac 2007 for our small non-profit because our account kept telling us that we need to upgrade and we were able to get it through TechSoup at a very reasonable price. I have not installed yet. I recall that there was a thread on the list not that long ago about a problem caused, I believe, by QuickBooks update feature. Has this problem been solved? Could I just turn off the update feature? What advice/warnings do you have before I install it? Thanks, Steve * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Truecrypt Encryption
I'm not sure I believe this. Once it's been determined you've used TC, wouldn't there then be an assumption the outer container was just an outer container? I mean, a "robber's purse" is not a new concept. > Creates a virtual drive inside of any object of your choosing. But > goes one better. You can encrypt within the encryption in ways > undetectable. Thus you can give a password and allow others to open > it and inspect. Those looking will never know that within the > encrypted space there is another deeper form of encryption. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
[CGUYS] Truecrypt Encryption (WAS: Fwd: [IP] Re: Encrypted laptop poses legal dilemma)
I forwarded a couple of messages about US Customs seizing computers, sometimes failing to return them, and demanding passwords. Cellphones are also sometimes seized. The TSA claims it does not do this. This can cause problems for people who travel with company-sensitive or other private information. Some companies avoid the problem by wiping all data from the laptop and having the user access it by SSL or other secure method over the network. Other solutions are possible. The following may be a solution for individual travelers without access to high-speed internet connections when in the field, or who lack access to secure connections to a secure server. From: David Farber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 11:27 PM To: David Farber Subject: Re: [IP] Encrypted laptop poses legal dilemma Dave, Check this as the perfect technological answer to the problem presented below. Given my position , however, please do not use my name or my company's name if you post this. Like anything, it has as many legitimate as illegitimate uses; this is public information and, ironically, was brought to my attention by some of the top security experts in the industry. http://www.truecrypt.org/ Creates a virtual drive inside of any object of your choosing. But goes one better. You can encrypt within the encryption in ways undetectable. Thus you can give a password and allow others to open it and inspect. Those looking will never know that within the encrypted space there is another deeper form of encryption. That said, I'd really hate to see the gov't or someone else shut this down. At the same time, for people traveling who are doing legitimate things that overreaching gov't officials have no right to see (and for which it is too late once compromise), this presents a valid solution. It is also incredibly useful for anyone carrying sensitive information b/c it gives you two layers of protection if your storage device or laptop is stolen. Know that if you mount it to a flash drive, it formats the entire drive. Most people create an object and mount it to that. Also, never, ever forget your password - did that once - and lost 50 megs worth of data. (might want to use roboform, which encrypts and protetcts your passwords). There's no getting inside of this. Ever. It's about as rock solid as it gets. Thanks, --- Archives: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] [IP] Re: U.S. Agents Seize Travelers' Devices
At 11:47 AM 2/9/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having said this, I have to add that I'm tired of hearing complaints about TSA from people who fancy themselves libertarian. As far as I can tell, the TSA people are doing the job they've been given to do, and anyway they don't make the policies. Intrusive security is far better than none. Read it again. It's not the TSA. It's customs, and it's not clear what threat they're defending against: pornography, or perhaps you have some drugs in your hard drive. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] [IP] Re: U.S. Agents Seize Travelers' Devices
At 02:54 PM 2/9/2008, John DeCarlo wrote: On Feb 9, 2008 11:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: But, considering how easy it still is for investigators to slip bombs, knives, guns, etc. through existing TSA security, it hardly seems worth it. There's a CBS video of someone sneaking a fake bomb through security without problems. Security or the airport had been notified a few minutes in advance, as I understand it. http://www.smartbrief.com/news/aia/videos.jsp?location=http://player.clipsyndicate.com/view/483/502671?cpt=8 * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] MS Yahoo!
At 10:49 AM 02/09/2008 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote >Iggle = Eagle in Philadelphian. and we did not even get to the tough stuff... How do you respond to "Wid or widout? Definitely Wid! My husband used to mow the "lawnd" every week also. Sue * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] External HD enclosure question.....
Just to be clear I *do not* want to boot from the hard drive external enclosure. At all .I would like to explore it (and copy some software profiles (mozilla, thunderbird and FTP prefs) and a few some data files that are a little more recent than my last backup... On Feb 9, 2008 2:06 PM, Fred Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If it's a decent machine: > > 1. It will still boot automatically from its own boot drive, without user > intervention. > > 2. You could boot from the external drive by accessing the motherboard BIOS > boot menu and selecting the external drive from the menu. Modern > motherboards can boot from a USB drive. To access the boot menu, press one > of the F-keys, similar to going into BIOS setup. If you have the POST set to > display progress on the monitor, then you should get a message as to which > key to press. (In principle you could also go into the motherboard BIOS > setup menu and change the default boot drive, but that wouldn't make much > sense in this instance.) > > 3. If you execute a boot from the old, now external drive, you will have all > the wrong hardware drivers, especially the video drivers, and you will get > "unexpected results." (or maybe you get the expected results which are that > the system defaults to 640 x 480 or 800 x 600 display resolution, and the > audio card doesn't work.) > > Fred Holmes > > > At 08:59 AM 2/9/2008, D.L.H. wrote: > >Situation: > >-New Vista machine (haven't seen it yet...arrives next week). > > > >-Old IDE hard drive inside an USB external HD enclosure. --from > >recently deceased homebuilt machine that ran XP-- > > > >-Can I assume that the new Vista machine shouldn't have an issue with > >the XP install or presence MBR on the drive in the external enclosure, > >since I expect the Vista machine not to recognize the USB external > >drive as a bootable device? > > > >Any pitfalls I should know about? > > > > > > > > >* ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== > >* ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== > >* Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name > >* Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST > >* Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L > >* New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress > >* Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >* List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC > >http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l > >* List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ > >* RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml > >* Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived > > > > > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== > * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== > * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name > * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST > * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L > * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress > * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l > * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ > * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml > * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] I Made a Green-Horn Error in Windows Install
>Changing the drive letter is really not feasible. If the drive letter of >the boot / system drive were changed, then you would have to go into the >configuration of every installed program and change the location of the >file to be launched and all of the helper files. That's an impossibly >large task, only feasible accomplished by reinstalling all of the >applications. Might as well start clean. A registry cleaner utility should be able to do this. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] [IP] Re: U.S. Agents Seize Travelers' Devices
On Feb 9, 2008 11:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Having said this, I have to add that I'm tired of hearing complaints about > TSA from people who fancy themselves libertarian. As far as I can tell, the > TSA people are doing the job they've been given to do, and anyway they don't > make the policies. Intrusive security is far better than none. > Yes, the TSA employees are just following orders. But, considering how easy it still is for investigators to slip bombs, knives, guns, etc. through existing TSA security, it hardly seems worth it. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] QuickBooks Pro
I've been told that QuickBooks isn't capable of tracking funding sources, i.e. automatically ensuring that funds received (e.g., a grant) for a specific purpose are being spent for that purpose. I don't use Quickbooks, and it may be possible to add additional fields to the "stock" accounting database that would accomplish this. Such additional fields may require a higher level of training than most folks get. Fred Holmes At 11:59 AM 2/9/2008, Stephen Brownfield wrote: >I recently purchased QuickBooks Pro Mac 2007 for our small non-profit because >our account kept telling us that we need to upgrade and we were able to get it >through TechSoup at a very reasonable price. I have not installed yet. I >recall that there was a thread on the list not that long ago about a problem >caused, I believe, by QuickBooks update feature. Has this problem been >solved? Could I just turn off the update feature? What advice/warnings do you >have before I install it? >Thanks, > >Steve * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] I Made a Green-Horn Error in Windows Install
Changing the drive letter is really not feasible. If the drive letter of the boot / system drive were changed, then you would have to go into the configuration of every installed program and change the location of the file to be launched and all of the helper files. That's an impossibly large task, only feasible accomplished by reinstalling all of the applications. Might as well start clean. Fred Holmes At 05:23 PM 2/8/2008, John Settle wrote: >Greeting! > >I recently built my own PC for the first time. When I installed the operating >system (Windows XP SP2 Home Edition) I made the green-horn error of having a >combo floppy drive and 7-in-1 card reader install. Windows wound up lettering >the floppy and all the 7-in-1 drives before it lettered my hard drive, hence >the operating system is installed on Drive H. I've install the Microsoft >Office Suite and a few other pieces of software and non-standard drive >lettering does cause some problems. I'd like to correct the drive lettering >and was curious to see if there was an alternative to uninstalling, formatting >and re-installing the operating system and the other software. After I >disconnect the problematic software. > >Any advice anyone? > >I suppose if I have to do that, now would be the best time! > >Thank you in advance. > > >Clear skies, >John J Settle (longitude 76W 56' 30.34", latitude 38N 57' 22.06") * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] External HD enclosure question.....
If it's a decent machine: 1. It will still boot automatically from its own boot drive, without user intervention. 2. You could boot from the external drive by accessing the motherboard BIOS boot menu and selecting the external drive from the menu. Modern motherboards can boot from a USB drive. To access the boot menu, press one of the F-keys, similar to going into BIOS setup. If you have the POST set to display progress on the monitor, then you should get a message as to which key to press. (In principle you could also go into the motherboard BIOS setup menu and change the default boot drive, but that wouldn't make much sense in this instance.) 3. If you execute a boot from the old, now external drive, you will have all the wrong hardware drivers, especially the video drivers, and you will get "unexpected results." (or maybe you get the expected results which are that the system defaults to 640 x 480 or 800 x 600 display resolution, and the audio card doesn't work.) Fred Holmes At 08:59 AM 2/9/2008, D.L.H. wrote: >Situation: >-New Vista machine (haven't seen it yet...arrives next week). > >-Old IDE hard drive inside an USB external HD enclosure. --from >recently deceased homebuilt machine that ran XP-- > >-Can I assume that the new Vista machine shouldn't have an issue with >the XP install or presence MBR on the drive in the external enclosure, >since I expect the Vista machine not to recognize the USB external >drive as a bootable device? > >Any pitfalls I should know about? > > > >* ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== >* ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== >* Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name >* Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST >* Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L >* New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress >* Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >* List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l >* List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ >* RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml >* Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] I Made a Green-Horn Error in Windows Install
Doesn't apply in this instance. It only applies to changing an accidentally-changed drive letter assignment back to the correct/original assignment. Read the article carefully. Fred Holmes At 06:38 PM 2/8/2008, mike wrote: >We were both wrong...or right. The way to change the boot volume letter. >Note: not for the feint of heart. > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q223188 > > > >On Feb 8, 2008 3:54 PM, Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Bzzzt. The system drive (or boot drive, as MS calls it right now) >> cannot be changed. Once H:, always H:. Unless you reinstall. >> >> If you can prove me wrong, I have two systems with boot drives other >> than C:; the users have no trouble with them, but I'd consider >> changing them. >> >> >> On Feb 8, 2008 5:36 PM, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Right click MY COMPUTER and select MANAGE. Select DISK MANAGEMENT in >> the >> > window that opens from the list on the left. Right click the drive you >> want >> > to change and the option should be in the menu. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] I Made a Green-Horn Error in Windows Install
I've done that with one machine (different details) and have been able to get everything to work. Requires some tweaking. I've even considered it more secure, since nothing is in its "standard" location. That being said, the only thing I can recommend for a fix is a Google search. When booted, you can't change the letter for the boot or system drive (which can be different, the boot drive being where ntldr, etc. are, and the system drive being where the WINNT/WINDOWS director is>). Rule of thumb is that all drives except a standard floppy attached to the motherboard should be disconnected when installing a Windows OS as the first OS on the machine unless you deliberately want a non-standard configuration. In principle one could install the drive as an "extra" drive on another machine, and then hack the appropriate portion of the configuration information (maybe just a registry entry), if you knew where it is. I don't. Fred Holmes At 05:23 PM 2/8/2008, John Settle wrote: >Greeting! > >I recently built my own PC for the first time. When I installed the operating >system (Windows XP SP2 Home Edition) I made the green-horn error of having a >combo floppy drive and 7-in-1 card reader install. Windows wound up lettering >the floppy and all the 7-in-1 drives before it lettered my hard drive, hence >the operating system is installed on Drive H. I've install the Microsoft >Office Suite and a few other pieces of software and non-standard drive >lettering does cause some problems. I'd like to correct the drive lettering >and was curious to see if there was an alternative to uninstalling, formatting >and re-installing the operating system and the other software. After I >disconnect the problematic software. > >Any advice anyone? > >I suppose if I have to do that, now would be the best time! > >Thank you in advance. > > >Clear skies, >John J Settle (longitude 76W 56' 30.34", latitude 38N 57' 22.06") > > > >* ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== >* ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== >* Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name >* Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST >* Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L >* New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress >* Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >* List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l >* List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ >* RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml >* Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] [IP] Re: U.S. Agents Seize Travelers' Devices
>Intrusive security is far better than none. Why do you think this is true? Is this one of those truths that are so obvious that nobody notices its falsity? How about: Security theater is a waste of money. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
[CGUYS] Torchwood (Was Re: [CGUYS] MS Yahoo!)
Quoting Paul Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Any Doctor Who fans following Torchwood? Me me me. I don't like it as much as Dr Who. Cap'n Jack was so much better in his couple of Dr Who episodes. He's too serious now. I liked the one where them three people came through the rift from WWII era. Then again, I don't like the new Who as much as the old Who. The inside of the Tardis is just wrong, and they spend too much time in Cardiff. And what's with the romantic involvement between The Doctor and his companion? Never had that before. They even romanticized the relationship between him and Sarah Jane. Katan * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
[CGUYS] QuickBooks Pro
I recently purchased QuickBooks Pro Mac 2007 for our small non-profit because our account kept telling us that we need to upgrade and we were able to get it through TechSoup at a very reasonable price. I have not installed yet. I recall that there was a thread on the list not that long ago about a problem caused, I believe, by QuickBooks update feature. Has this problem been solved? Could I just turn off the update feature? What advice/warnings do you have before I install it? Thanks, Steve * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] [IP] Re: U.S. Agents Seize Travelers' Devices
I don't know about obsessive, but I recently returned from a trip to Spain and had my belief reinforced in the fact that the security procedures in Madrid are better than ours. The difference, to my mind, is that they always have security people who interview each departing person, then even in the line to board the plane, they check back. They have been doing this sort of thing for many years, it's nothing new. This is in addition to the usual technology we have. Yes, they require you to remove your shoes, but they do offer plastic booties to wear while your shoes are off. What makes the difference to me is the addition of a human element to the overall process. Our security seems to me to depend too heavily on technology. Having said this, I have to add that I'm tired of hearing complaints about TSA from people who fancy themselves libertarian. As far as I can tell, the TSA people are doing the job they've been given to do, and anyway they don't make the policies. Intrusive security is far better than none. On 2/9/08 2:28, "Eric S. Sande" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Got it. Not to be too paranoid than usual, on my last trip TO > the USA from France, the French were more obsessive about > security than their counterparts in the USA. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] How stable is Excel?
>Can't excel just be setup as the interface to >the database which would allow the excel-centric >users to be happy without stomping on the >structure. Excel can import, but read only access may not suffice. They could get read-write access by simply accessing the database directly via a web browser. But I don't think it is really an access issue. Based on previous incidents I think that access is not the point. Some people seek personal validation by doing all their computing with Microfoft products. They give you this deer in the headlights look whenever a non-MS product is mentioned. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] MS Yahoo!
>Iggle = Eagle in Philadelphian. and we did not even get to the tough stuff... How do you respond to "Wid or widout? * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] External HD enclosure question.....
you can assume and are correct...either way you can plug the ext. drive in after the machine is on. Mike On Feb 9, 2008 6:59 AM, D.L.H. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Situation: > -New Vista machine (haven't seen it yet...arrives next week). > > -Old IDE hard drive inside an USB external HD enclosure. --from > recently deceased homebuilt machine that ran XP-- > > -Can I assume that the new Vista machine shouldn't have an issue with > the XP install or presence MBR on the drive in the external enclosure, > since I expect the Vista machine not to recognize the USB external > drive as a bootable device? > > Any pitfalls I should know about? > > > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== > * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== > * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name > * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST > * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L > * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress > * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC > http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l > * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ > * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml > * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] MS Yahoo!
At 06:57 AM 02/09/2008 -0800, Paul Meyer wrote Any Doctor Who fans following Torchwood? (I know it's OT but what about all that indecipherable obscureness about Philadelphia and a (?) pig. I am not even going to ask what an iggle is.) I think an iggle is a type of bird only found in PA. :) Sue * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] MS Yahoo!
I'm about three quarters of the way through Torchwood season 1 . I thought they were better as the series goes on Some of the earlier ones had these sex oriented plot twists that felt like an HBO comedy where they used to have a topless women in the shot for no particular reason. I liked the one about the ghost best. Iggle = Eagle in Philadelphian. On Feb 9, 2008 9:57 AM, Paul Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any Doctor Who fans following Torchwood? > (I know it's OT but what about all that > indecipherable obscureness about Philadelphia > and a (?) pig. I am not even going to > ask what an iggle is.) > > --- katan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:56:19 -0800, Paul Meyer wrote: > > > > >Is that a Doctor Who quote? > > > > Why yes. Yes it is. From "the Face of Evil". > > > > -- > > katan > > > > The very powerful, and the very stupid have one thing in common. > > They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts > > to fit > > their views. Which can be uncomfortable if you happen to be one > > of the facts that needs altering. > > > >The Doctor (Number 4) > > > > > > > > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in > > <== > > * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <== > > * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name > > * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST > > * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L > > * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L > > YourNewAddress > > * Need more help? Send mail to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC > > http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l > > * List archive at > > www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ > > * RSS at > > www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml > > * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be > > archived > > > > > > > > Checkout One Laptop Per Child project laptop.org > > > > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== > * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== > * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name > * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST > * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L > * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress > * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l > * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ > * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml > * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived > > -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] MS Yahoo!
Any Doctor Who fans following Torchwood? (I know it's OT but what about all that indecipherable obscureness about Philadelphia and a (?) pig. I am not even going to ask what an iggle is.) --- katan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:56:19 -0800, Paul Meyer wrote: > > >Is that a Doctor Who quote? > > Why yes. Yes it is. From "the Face of Evil". > > -- > katan > > The very powerful, and the very stupid have one thing in common. > They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts > to fit > their views. Which can be uncomfortable if you happen to be one > of the facts that needs altering. > >The Doctor (Number 4) > > > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in > <== > * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <== > * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name > * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST > * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L > * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L > YourNewAddress > * Need more help? Send mail to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC > http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l > * List archive at > www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ > * RSS at > www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml > * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be > archived > > Checkout One Laptop Per Child project laptop.org * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] How stable is Excel?
Can't excel just be setup as the interface to the database which would allow the excel-centric users to be happy without stomping on the structure. --- Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I think before I let them flatten it I'd consider online solutions > >too. Does Google offer a real database app now? > > Current item of interest is blist.com which provides a happy Flash > interface to PostgreSQL. > > > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in > <== > * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <== > * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name > * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST > * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L > * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L > YourNewAddress > * Need more help? Send mail to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC > http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l > * List archive at > www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ > * RSS at > www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml > * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be > archived > > Checkout One Laptop Per Child project laptop.org * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
[CGUYS] External HD enclosure question.....
Situation: -New Vista machine (haven't seen it yet...arrives next week). -Old IDE hard drive inside an USB external HD enclosure. --from recently deceased homebuilt machine that ran XP-- -Can I assume that the new Vista machine shouldn't have an issue with the XP install or presence MBR on the drive in the external enclosure, since I expect the Vista machine not to recognize the USB external drive as a bootable device? Any pitfalls I should know about? * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] find tracking device on truck
Thanks for all the suggestions. I will get them to him just as soon as he removes the tracking software she put on his computer or get his work email address. >My God that would have to cost her a fortune in texting charges, not to mention filling her inbox. Unless he's exaggerating about the "whenever the truck moves" part! >>> >From what he can tell it sent messages when truck was started and then every 30 minutes or so until it was parked at end destination. Since we live in Houston, Texas and he drives an hour or more each way to and from work he is finding out it was costing a fortune! My wife is welcome to check my location if she just wants to see me go to work every morning and back home every night.>> That's about what he was doing but my 21 year old niece totaled her car last summer and was using Dad's truck when she could. A 21 year old single female who likes clubs riding in Dad's truck burning Dad's tank of gas. I bet that kept my sister-in-law busy! <<>> She is refusing psych evaluations that the DA has offered. She may end up doing more time than she thinks she can get. Her parents are refusing to bail her out but have been trying to get her mental help. Thanks, on digets, Isa ** Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
