Re: [CGUYS] failure notice

2008-06-03 Thread Jeff Wright
Well, Netaxs is lying, either through ignorance or intentionally. They are indeed using a realtime blackhole list, www.uceprtotect.net, and blocking mail from Verizon mail servers. The UCEprotect methodology is here: http://www.uceprotect.net/en/index.php?m=3s=0 Level 1, which your Verizon

Re: [CGUYS] Problems for windows safari users could spread to mac os

2008-06-03 Thread John DeCarlo
Anyone seen any technical discussion of this? It sounds like the flaw allows a denial-of-service attack by having thousands of files put on your desktop. But I bet there are technical articles that indicate if there is a significant problem security-wise. I noticed that all the related stories

Re: [CGUYS] Problems for windows safari users could spread to m

2008-06-03 Thread Snyder, Mark (IT Civ)
Down to their last cards. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- So MS plays the fear card. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and

Re: [CGUYS] FYI: Safari on the Windows Platform

2008-06-03 Thread Tom Piwowar
Comments I've read from Windows programmers suggest that Apple's programmers may be a bit too naive about Windows. Despite hearing all the stories about Windows' foulness they still assume a higher level of quality and professionalism than Microsoft is able to deliver. Consequently problems

Re: [CGUYS] a list problem

2008-06-03 Thread Tom Piwowar
I just received this email today (6/1/08). It is the first email since 1:30 am on 5/28/08. How do I know if my mail is bouncing back and what do I need to do to keep on the list? I think AOL was down over the weekend. The message I got said I wasn't able to establish an SMTP connection so

Re: [CGUYS] Problems for windows safari users could spread to m

2008-06-03 Thread Snyder, Mark (IT Civ)
The Dick Cheneys and Microsofts of the world count on your reliable response to the fear card. Your ready reaction turns the fear card into the Bingo! Card for them - every time. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Not that I'm a MS defender in the least, nor am I am Mac lover,

Re: [CGUYS] Problems for windows safari users could spread to m

2008-06-03 Thread Larry Sacks
Not that I'm a MS defender in the least, nor am I am Mac lover, but... MS is screwed either way. If they don't publicize the problem, then they'll be blamed because they knew about it and didn't do anything. They chose - what I consider the decent thing to do - to let people know about the

Re: [CGUYS] FYI: Safari on the Windows Platform

2008-06-03 Thread mike
They are naive and code badly because of it? You keep spinning and yer gonna get dizzy. Apple also said they aren't going to fix the issue. Professionalism? Google apple microsoft zero day patch and you'll hit articles showing apple is so professional they lag behind in issuing zero day

Re: [CGUYS] a list problem

2008-06-03 Thread Stephen Brownfield
Tom, I think you are right. Once the list got back up, I saw that i was not the only one with problems over the weekend. Steve Tom Piwowar wrote: I just received this email today (6/1/08). It is the first email since 1:30 am on 5/28/08. How do I know if my mail is bouncing back and

Re: [CGUYS] FYI: Safari on the Windows Platform

2008-06-03 Thread Tom Piwowar
So to sum up. Safari has a flaw, that enables a second flaw in explorer to be exploited. MS is going to patch explorer, Apple has zero plans to patch even though when MS patches, the safari bug will still have security effects on the system. And you think MS is less professional then Apple is