Re: [CGUYS] Forced to Vista?

2008-06-18 Thread Chris Dunford
To me, it looks like the game is played: Buy MS OS--whatever the latest version. Use all MS products on it (browsers, email programs, Office). Repeat about every 3 years. I'm not sure this is a fair analysis, Sue. As I mentioned earlier, I'm still using, with Vista, software that was

Re: [CGUYS] Forced to Vista?

2008-06-18 Thread Chris Dunford
How many horses is enough for Vista to run well? Which version of Vista? Well, I'm running Vista Ultimate with an Intel Core2 (dual processor) at 2.4GHz and 2GB of RAM. Not exactly top-of-the-line stuff any more... Chris

Re: [CGUYS] Forced to Vista?

2008-06-18 Thread Chris Dunford
And it's certainly more secure. Chris How do you know for sure? My impression of improved security is tighter digital rights management and IT's tighter control over what the user can do (in a corporate environment). I've never had an infection and my Windows 2000 is still running fine.

Re: [CGUYS] Forced to Vista?

2008-06-18 Thread Snyder, Mark (IT CIV)
I just migrated my parents (late 70's, early 80's) from their 10-year old, first edition iMac to the latest model iMac. Yes, they are learning OS X 10.5 after using OS 8.6. That said, I told them not to buy any software, but to download Firefox and OpenOffice. The free, open-source software is

Re: [CGUYS] Forced to Vista?

2008-06-18 Thread Chris Dunford
I ran the upgrade adviser and it shows only 15 of my applications won't work with Vista -- better than I had expected. There were no device problems except for Bluetooth which won't work with Vista. I'm surprised that there were that many. That was certainly not my own experience. When you

Re: [CGUYS] Forced to Vista?

2008-06-18 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
Heh, I still have an old road apple- Performa 6300 in basement that maxes out at os9.2. My G3 stopped doing anything a few months ago. My guess is a power supply but I haven't been motivated enough to find one. I haven't fired up the Mac Plus in ages but it worked the last time I tried. IMS

[CGUYS] Firefox 3 Bookmarks

2008-06-18 Thread Fred Holmes
In Firefox 3, is there any way to get back to the classic view of manage/organize bookmarks, i.e., the tree view? Now folders are shown in-line (vertically) with individual bookmarks, and if you open a folder, you lose the view of everything else but what is in the folder. Aside from the

Re: [CGUYS] Firefox 3 Bookmarks

2008-06-18 Thread John DeCarlo
I just installed Firefox 3 yesterday. Bookmarks - Organize Bookmarks opens up a window with the tree view on the left, the contents of the currently selected folder in the upper right, and the properties of the selected bookmark in the lower right. In other words, a three panel view, a lot like

Re: [CGUYS] Firefox 3 Bookmarks

2008-06-18 Thread Vicky Staubly
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Fred Holmes wrote: In Firefox 3, is there any way to get back to the classic view of manage/organize bookmarks, i.e., the tree view? Now folders are shown in-line (vertically) with individual bookmarks, and if you open a folder, you lose the view of everything else but

Re: [CGUYS] Firefox 3 Bookmarks

2008-06-18 Thread Fred Holmes
OK, I've got it now. Seems a waste to have that properties dialog open all the time. Takes up real estate that could be used for additional lines of listing. But as long as I can edit the name of the bookmark, I'm ok. Thanks, Fred Holmes At 03:38 PM 6/18/2008, Vicky Staubly wrote: On Wed,

Re: [CGUYS] Firefox 3 Bookmarks

2008-06-18 Thread mike
I just noticed I can delete a bookmark from the drop menu and the menu sticks for the next deletion...nice. Mike On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Fred Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I've got it now. Seems a waste to have that properties dialog open all the time. Takes up real estate

Re: [CGUYS] T1 vs DSL?

2008-06-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
Well, you're not going to be able to make a phone call (other than a VOIP call) over a data only T1. It depends on how your T1 is designed. I consider T1 to be too broad a term for specific use. It's really a descriptor of an interface level, not an application level. Is VOIP a sane option

Re: [CGUYS] Forced to Vista?

2008-06-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
Thanks for that info, Tom. It sounds like Apple has decided to play the game too. Can you imagine a market share if someone ever decided to build a good machine and support it for more than a few years? Strange stories this week at Macintouch.com of salesfolk at the Apple Store downselling.

Re: [CGUYS] T1 vs DSL?

2008-06-18 Thread Eric S. Sande
Is VOIP a sane option today? I see if offered by various startup companies for free. Is there a reliable version that can be used by someone who depends on their telephones working? I would characterize it as a developing technology. It is certainly where the carriers want to go because