Re: [CGUYS] Unusual sound on speakers

2008-07-30 Thread Brian Jones
Seriously now... I once had a sound card with (what I think was) a bad 
capacitor... it would randomly discharge making a horrible noise like you 
mentioned... much louder than the music/program that was playing.  It would 
happen once or twice a day, with no real pattern.  Upgrading the sound card 
solved the problem.  I also had a Ford with a tape deck that would make a 
much louder, horrible b-b-bzzz-bzz-bz-bz sound about once a week, 
which I was unable to make Ford replace under warranty... they just 
'repaired' it and put it back in.

 - Brian

- Original Message - 
From: Michael S. Altus [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: [CGUYS] Unusual sound on speakers



When I have my speakers on, I periodically get a sound,
dum-dum-duh-duh-duh-dum-dum-duh-dum. Does anyone know what that is? At 
first, I thought it is a

time signal at the start of an hour, but I hear it at other times.



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[CGUYS] Eudora in Vista

2008-07-30 Thread gerald
i am running my new econoAcer with Vista.  

How long does it take before the typical 70yo stops hating Vista?

The pictures imbedded in Eudora (terminal version) messages do not appear.  is 
there a toggle somewhere for this?

i do not seem to have an attachments folder in vista.  xp had 
programsqualcomeudoraattachments.  is there one?  i searched the c drive and 
cannot find a folder with that name. 


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Re: [CGUYS] Eudora in Vista

2008-07-30 Thread Sue Cubic

At 03:25 PM 07/30/2008 -0400, gerald wrote


i do not seem to have an attachments folder in vista.  xp had 
programsqualcomeudoraattachments.  is there one?  i searched the c 
drive and cannot find a folder with that name.


The name of the folder is attach--not attachments.  Try that.

Sue


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Re: [CGUYS] Eudora in Vista

2008-07-30 Thread Chris Dunford
 i do not seem to have an attachments folder in vista.  xp had
 programsqualcomeudoraattachments.  is there one?  i searched the c
 drive and cannot find a folder with that name.

I don't know about your other question, but Vista in general does not want
data to be stored under the Program Files folder (which is very sensible, by
the way).

If Eudora has been updated correctly for Vista, it will put them somewhere
else. The most likely candidate is somewhere in your user folder, like
AppData.  You may also have a folder named ProgramData that you could look
at.

Is there no info in the help or on their web site?


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Re: [CGUYS] Eudora in Vista

2008-07-30 Thread Fred Holmes
Vista security is rumored to not allow any writes at all to the Program 
Files folder.  One solution might be to reinstall Eudora to some other folder, 
even d:\EUDORA\, for which you have write privileges.  I think Vista would 
consider Eudora to be a rogue program.

My Eudora V6 puts embedded pictures (.jpg files, generally) in an \Embedded\ 
folder, not in the \Attach\ folder.  It's in the Eudora folder as well.  I 
just run Eudora from a portable hard drive and it doesn't require any registry 
entries to run, at least in Win2K.

Fred Holmes

At 03:25 PM 7/30/2008, gerald wrote:
i am running my new econoAcer with Vista.  

How long does it take before the typical 70yo stops hating Vista?

The pictures imbedded in Eudora (terminal version) messages do not appear.  is 
there a toggle somewhere for this?

i do not seem to have an attachments folder in vista.  xp had 
programsqualcomeudoraattachments.  is there one?  i searched the c drive 
and cannot find a folder with that name. 


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Re: [CGUYS] Eudora in Vista

2008-07-30 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
If you installed Eudroa using custom, you could create your own data 
(attach) folder where you wanted.  Otherwise it defaulted to the 
appdata folder under c:\documents and settings.


That was under XP.

I have always kept my Eudora as a separate folder as its own root not 
in program files.


If however you are using the newer Eudora (thunderbird collaboration) 
they default to appdata just like Outlook does.


Stewart


At 02:51 PM 7/30/2008, you wrote:

 i do not seem to have an attachments folder in vista.  xp had
 programsqualcomeudoraattachments.  is there one?  i searched the c
 drive and cannot find a folder with that name.

I don't know about your other question, but Vista in general does not want
data to be stored under the Program Files folder (which is very sensible, by
the way).

If Eudora has been updated correctly for Vista, it will put them somewhere
else. The most likely candidate is somewhere in your user folder, like
AppData.  You may also have a folder named ProgramData that you could look
at.

Is there no info in the help or on their web site?


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Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
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Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org
Ozark, AL  SL 82


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Re: [CGUYS] Eudora in Vista

2008-07-30 Thread mike
How  would you install any programs if you can't write to that folder?

Mike

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Chris Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

  Vista security is rumored to not allow any writes at all to the
  Program Files folder

 Just curious, why the quotes?


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Re: [CGUYS] Eudora in Vista

2008-07-30 Thread Chris Dunford
 How  would you install any programs if you can't write to that folder?

Installation is different. You can install programs into Program Files, but
the programs aren't allowed to write their own data there after
installation.

I had also forgotten something else in my earlier reply, which is why legacy
programs that try to write to Program Files should still work. The data they
try to write there gets put into a virtual store, which is actually a real
folder in the user's space. For example, IrfanView does this, and its data
ends up (on my system) in Users\Chris\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program
Files\IrfanView. When IrfanView tries to read/write in Program Files, Vista
will quietly use the virtual store instead.

A lot of people forget (or don't know) that Program Files was not writable
under XP either--if you ran as a standard user. But since nobody did, it
wasn't an issue.
 


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Re: [CGUYS] Eudora in Vista

2008-07-30 Thread Fred Holmes
At 07:43 PM 7/30/2008, mike wrote:
How  would you install any programs if you can't write to that folder?

Mike


You run the installation logged on as administrator.  But for simple 
productivity computing, you never run as administrator.  All programs write 
settings to the registry and write data to a data directory.

MS has now gotten to the point where no program can simply be copied from one 
machine to another (or carried on a portable hard drive) that uses Vista run 
according to the nominal security rules.


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Re: [CGUYS] Eudora in Vista

2008-07-30 Thread Fred Holmes
Something that is completely locked down is of course secure but of 
reduced/little usability.  I have my Eudora, with all data and setting files in 
the Eudora directory, on a portable hard drive that I can plug into any machine 
(in principle) and run my full mail client with all of its features, address 
books, filters, and archives, etc. from any machine that isn't locked down.  
Thus, in my circumstance, having a desktop machine at every location that I'm 
likely to want to use e-mail, I can haul around a simple USB hard drive and no 
more. It works just fine on my Win2K and WinXP machines. I think I'm going to 
find myself out of luck on a Vista machine.

Sort of like having a gun in one's home for self defense, but the gun has to be 
disassembled, with a trigger guard lock locked in place, and in a locked 
cabinet, with no ammunition stored within reach (or whatever the new DC rules 
are).

Fred Holmes

At 05:44 PM 7/30/2008, Chris Dunford wrote:
 Vista security is rumored to not allow any writes at all to the
 Program Files folder

Just curious, why the quotes?


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Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...

2008-07-30 Thread b_s-wilk

 22 public interest groups roast FCC smutless broadband plan
 By Matthew Lasar | Published: July 29, 2008 - 08:55AM CT

   They may not agree on net neutrality or the Fairness Doctrine, but 
almost half a dozen advocacy groups from liberal to libertarian do 
concur on one issue: they hate Federal Communications Commission Chair 
Kevin Martin's proposal for a national broadband service with the porn 
filtered out.
 Unconstitutional and unwise, their Friday filing calls the plan, 
which they charge amounts to a government mandated 'blacklist' of 
websites. The filtering component would limit the system so 
dramatically that the usefulness of the service would be radically 
reduced. Plus, if the agency actually approved the scheme, it would 
face a tsunami of lawsuits.


 Read on: http://tinyurl.com/6phwoz


What's smut? What's porn?

To some of those nuts, the paintings in the Louvre, or Museum of Modern 
art are porn. So is this, 
http://www.woot.com/Forums/ViewPost.aspx?PostID=2468733 [after the 
woot-off], or http://naturist-holidays-uncovered.co.uk/naturist.htm. 
Don't forget John Ashcroft hiding Lady Liberty's boobs, like the boob 
that he is. Also some porn filters doesn't allow access to medical 
information about breast cancer.


First it's porn next it's politics, religion, important news, and who 
knows what else? The local Marantha church radio here broadcasts the 
most hateful programs I've heard in a long time. Their athletes wear 
head to toe sweats for games; cheerleaders wear sweaters and 
floor-length skirts, yet the sermons in their tent meetings [you can 
hear them in the neighborhood] are all about hate, sin, hell, damnation, 
bigotry, racism, censorship, xenophobia. Will people like this dictate 
the filters? Will the hideous people in Texas who tell textbook 
publishers what kind of censored books our children should read in 
school dictate the filters?


Those pathetic, ignorant, repressed souls can buy filters for their own 
computers, and can also take the time to study the Constitution. 
Unconstitutional and unwise only scratches at the surface of their 
problems!


Betty


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Re: [CGUYS] Eudora in Vista

2008-07-30 Thread Chris Dunford
 I have my Eudora, with all data and setting
 files in the Eudora directory, on a portable hard drive that I can plug
 into any machine (in principle) and run my full mail client with all of
 its features, address books, filters, and archives, etc. from any
 machine that isn't locked down

Sorry, I guess I'm not following. If you can run it from a portable drive,
then presumably the Eudora folder is on that drive and not in Program Files,
in which case there's no problem.  What am I missing?


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Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...

2008-07-30 Thread Eric S. Sande
Those pathetic, ignorant, repressed souls can buy filters for their own 
computers, and can also take the time to study the Constitution. 
Unconstitutional and unwise only scratches at the surface of their 
problems!


Well, I agree with you in theory.  As an employee of a common
carrier and a Libertarian I'd say consenting adults can do whatever
they please as long as it doesn't break the law.

On the other hand, no matter what you do or how you operate you
are bound to piss someone off.


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