Re: [CGUYS] USB 2
Thanks. I'll have him try it. Richard P. wrote: Look for Enhanced as part of the Host Controller ID in device manager. Also, according to Wiki, USB 2 has been around since 2001, so chances are the computer might be USB 2. http://ask-leo.com/how_can_i_tell_if_i_have_usb_20.html While I can't vouch for this info, this is what I was able to find on the web. Richard P. A friend of mine wants to know if the USB ports on his computer are USB 2 or USB1. Is there any easy way for him to check this out? His PC is around 4 years old and runs XP. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] LP to CD turntable?
For converting 78's to digital, I used to use an old Miracord changer that had a GE VRII cartridge, coupled to an equally ancient Marantz audio consolette preamplifier that has equalization for various old 78 recording curves. I go from the single tape output (remember this is all monaural) to a Y adapter and then through an analog/digital/USB gadget (I forget the brand, but they are cheap and plentiful), bypassing the sound card in the PC. I use Audacity from SoundForge for managing the recording and editing. Audacity isn't at all intuitive, but it doesn't take long to master most of the applicable functions. I have had to retire the Miracord, as the rubber idlers are tired and the speed wasn't consistent. I replaced it with a newer ERC combination changer/receiver and 8 track(!) player that used to be my son's. It has a 78 record needle and plays very well (I bypassed the ERC's amplifier and ran the outputs directly into the Marantz). For 33's and 45' I use my regular Dual or Yamaha turntables and modern amplifiers, but otherwise the process is the same. I save the 78 recordings as .wav files but convert them to .mp3 to save space - the sound quality doesn't suffer. For 33's, I cut CD-Rs with .wav files. I also save the music to regular reel-to-reel tape - anything to keep playing the old records repeatedly. Aren't you glad you asked? I am sure there are much simpler ways to accomplish the same thing, but I like to 1. mess around with stuff like this, and 2. avoid spending any more money than I absolutely have to. All of this was done with stuff I acquired for free, except the analog/digital converter box. http://public.fotki.com/mikesloane/old-electronics-and/marantzpreamp1.html and http://public.fotki.com/mikesloane/old-electronics-and/ercturntable.html Mike Steve Rigby wrote: On Dec 3, 2008, at 2:28 PM, Judy Cosler wrote: any recommendations for a turntable to convert vinyl to digital format? any that I should stay away from? want easy, fast; don't want to have to tinker with. but, i don't want hum or other bad things. i'm no audiophile really! I use a real turntable, an old school one, hooked up to a stereo amplifier and couple that to my USB port using a Griffin iMic by using the tape outputs of the stereo amp. Griffin has some free software that allows any old school turntable to connect directly to the iMic, providing proper equalization to the audio signal with the need for having to go through a stereo amp or preamp in order to achieve said equalization. I just do not like their software as it is not very controllable or flexible enough for my taste. There are USB turntables available, but I do not know how good their cartridges are. That is why I use my old stereo component turntable, because it has a very high quality cartridge. Perhaps one can put any cartridge of their choice into a modern USB turntable, I just don't know. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple pushes anti-virus for Macs
But I read it on the web, so it has to be true!! One of the things I frequently look for is the publication date. I really hate sites that programmatically display the current date. I don't need their website to tell me today's date. I do need them to tell me if the information I am reading is current. Sometimes I have to look for hints, like the mention of a fearure or problem that I know has changed. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Lie Online, Go to Jail
There is a long history on the internet of folks using aliases for any of a variety of reasons and now a jury has ruled that's illegal and a misdemeanor. Some of us are not as tough as you and would find a year in jail to be an unpleasant experience. Imagine how the other inmates would react to your answer to What you in for? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] VOB to H.264
I'm looking to convert VOB to H.264, any recommendations would be appreciated. I've tried gordian knot but it doesn't seem to do H.264. Mike * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Lie Online, Go to Jail
Some of us are not as tough as you and would find a year in jail to be an unpleasant experience. Imagine how the other inmates would react to your answer to What you in for? Figure there are 45k in users on freenode, more on EFnet...half of those aren't who they say they are. They'll need to build new jails... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Lie Online, Go to Jail
For a sentence that short in many localities they would be housed locally and you would be surprised at what all those folks are in for. Stewart At 08:57 AM 12/4/2008, you wrote: Some of us are not as tough as you and would find a year in jail to be an unpleasant experience. Imagine how the other inmates would react to your answer to What you in for? Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] tripwire for the Mac?
I already use Little Snitch, is there a tripwire like tool available for the Mac? You may want to read Foundations of Mac OS X Leopard Security by Edge, Barker Smith. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] VOB to H.264
Handbrake. Open Source. http://handbrake.fr/ On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 10:16 AM, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking to convert VOB to H.264, any recommendations would be appreciated. I've tried gordian knot but it doesn't seem to do H.264. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Lie Online, Go to Jail
Yes, but isn't the point that the crime is misrepresenting yourself for the purpose of committing a crime ... not just misrepresenting yourself? Kind of like the RICO act thingee.. They aren't going to prosecute me ... db dbota ... unless its my representation of myself as db is the thing that enable me to commit a crime / deprive someone else of an essential and critically important or more fundamental right. If that woman had used her own identity, the girl would have commented to her mother and the mother would have been able to protect her daughter ... done something to prevent the other mother's harassment. It was the woman's use of a fraudulent identity with the purpose to defraud/ make it impossible for the girl to protect herself from the attack that was the crime. Another element is the degree of affect involved: It is very probable that disguise helped drive the girl to her death. If the affect of the woman's disguise was negligible... there wouldn't have been a prosecution. I think common sense was a factor in this prosecution. We should use it too as a factor in this discussion and not compare apples to oranges. db Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: For a sentence that short in many localities they would be housed locally and you would be surprised at what all those folks are in for. Stewart At 08:57 AM 12/4/2008, you wrote: Some of us are not as tough as you and would find a year in jail to be an unpleasant experience. Imagine how the other inmates would react to your answer to What you in for? Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] VOB to H.264
Gah! How did I forget? I remember hearing how great handbrake was for mac and now it's on windows...good tip. Thanks. Mike On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Tony B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Handbrake. Open Source. http://handbrake.fr/ On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 10:16 AM, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking to convert VOB to H.264, any recommendations would be appreciated. I've tried gordian knot but it doesn't seem to do H.264. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Make sure you support your local CarbonONset programs! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Looking for an e-mail client with particular features
I am looking for an e-mail client that that a feature like AOL version 7. As a freelance medical writer-editor, I have individual Word folders for each client. One of the files in these folders is named Correspondence, in which I routinely keep copies of incoming and outgoing e-mails. I have used AOL version 7 for several years because I can copy the visible headers (subject; date; from; to) in incoming and outgoing e-mails. That is, when I have an incoming or outgoing e-mail on the screen, I can select (Ctrl+A) and copy (Ctrl+C) the e-mail, including the visible headers, and paste (Ctrl+V) it into a Word file that, as mentioned, is named Correspondence. If you are unclear about what I mean, look at the e-mails in the www.cguys.org archives. These e-mails are formatted in a way that that the visible headers can be copied along with the text. When AOL version 9 was introduced, I tried it and found that the e-mails were configured differently. The visible headers are in the background, so to speak. When I would select an entire page (Ctrl-A), I would get only the body of the e-mail, not including the visible headers. For this reason, I downgraded to AOL version 7. I find that two e-mail clients, Microsoft Outlook and Mozilla Thunderbird, are configured in the same way as AOL version 9. When I select on the body of an e-mail, I get only the body, not the visible headers. My webhost offers webmail access to the e-mails. I do not care for the format, and I prefer to have an e-mail client on my computer so as to assure that e-mails are downloaded to my computer from the web. Does anyone know of an e-mail client that formats e-mails to enable copying visible headers along with the text? Thanks, Michael Michael S. Altus, PhD, ELS Intensive Care Communications, Inc.(R) Biomedical Writing and Editing Baltimore MD; [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Looking for an e-mail client with particular features
Pegasus email would do what you want. You can also change the message display options in Thunderbird to show the headers such that they would be copied. Matthew On Dec 4, 2008, at 4:15 PM, Michael S. Altus wrote: I am looking for an e-mail client that that a feature like AOL version 7. As a freelance medical writer-editor, I have individual Word folders for each client. One of the files in these folders is named Correspondence, in which I routinely keep copies of incoming and outgoing e-mails. I have used AOL version 7 for several years because I can copy the visible headers (subject; date; from; to) in incoming and outgoing e-mails. That is, when I have an incoming or outgoing e-mail on the screen, I can select (Ctrl+A) and copy (Ctrl+C) the e-mail, including the visible headers, and paste (Ctrl+V) it into a Word file that, as mentioned, is named Correspondence. If you are unclear about what I mean, look at the e-mails in the www.cguys.org archives. These e-mails are formatted in a way that that the visible headers can be copied along with the text. When AOL version 9 was introduced, I tried it and found that the e- mails were configured differently. The visible headers are in the background, so to speak. When I would select an entire page (Ctrl-A), I would get only the body of the e-mail, not including the visible headers. For this reason, I downgraded to AOL version 7. I find that two e-mail clients, Microsoft Outlook and Mozilla Thunderbird, are configured in the same way as AOL version 9. When I select on the body of an e-mail, I get only the body, not the visible headers. My webhost offers webmail access to the e-mails. I do not care for the format, and I prefer to have an e-mail client on my computer so as to assure that e-mails are downloaded to my computer from the web. Does anyone know of an e-mail client that formats e-mails to enable copying visible headers along with the text? Thanks, Michael Michael S. Altus, PhD, ELS Intensive Care Communications, Inc.(R) Biomedical Writing and Editing Baltimore MD; [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Looking for an e-mail client with particular features
I use Mozilla thunderbird. If I want to copy the heading information, I select forward the email inline and then I can copy it (except for bcc recipients). Michael S. Altus wrote: I am looking for an e-mail client that that a feature like AOL version 7. As a freelance medical writer-editor, I have individual Word folders for each client. One of the files in these folders is named Correspondence, in which I routinely keep copies of incoming and outgoing e-mails. I have used AOL version 7 for several years because I can copy the visible headers (subject; date; from; to) in incoming and outgoing e-mails. That is, when I have an incoming or outgoing e-mail on the screen, I can select (Ctrl+A) and copy (Ctrl+C) the e-mail, including the visible headers, and paste (Ctrl+V) it into a Word file that, as mentioned, is named Correspondence. If you are unclear about what I mean, look at the e-mails in the www.cguys.org archives. These e-mails are formatted in a way that that the visible headers can be copied along with the text. When AOL version 9 was introduced, I tried it and found that the e-mails were configured differently. The visible headers are in the background, so to speak. When I would select an entire page (Ctrl-A), I would get only the body of the e-mail, not including the visible headers. For this reason, I downgraded to AOL version 7. I find that two e-mail clients, Microsoft Outlook and Mozilla Thunderbird, are configured in the same way as AOL version 9. When I select on the body of an e-mail, I get only the body, not the visible headers. My webhost offers webmail access to the e-mails. I do not care for the format, and I prefer to have an e-mail client on my computer so as to assure that e-mails are downloaded to my computer from the web. Does anyone know of an e-mail client that formats e-mails to enable copying visible headers along with the text? Thanks, Michael Michael S. Altus, PhD, ELS Intensive Care Communications, Inc.(R) Biomedical Writing and Editing Baltimore MD; [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] USB 2
I have both on my computer, 2 front, 2 back ver 1.1 built in and 4 on pci card ver 2 ...when I plug in2 any ofem, if it's a usb2 device into usb1.1 port windows xp puts up a message telling me device could run faster if I had usb 2 connection. -Original Message- From: Stephen Brownfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 6:24 AM Subject: Re: USB 2 Thanks. I'll have him try it. Richard P. wrote: Look for Enhanced as part of the Host Controller ID in device manager. Also, according to Wiki, USB 2 has been around since 2001, so chances are the computer might be USB 2. http://ask-leo.com/how_can_i_tell_if_i_have_usb_20.html While I can't vouch for this info, this is what I was able to find on the web. Richard P. A friend of mine wants to know if the USB ports on his computer are USB 2 or USB1. Is there any easy way for him to check this out? His PC is around 4 years old and runs XP. ** *** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Lie Online, Go to Jail
Yes, but isn't the point that the crime is misrepresenting yourself for the purpose of committing a crime ... not just misrepresenting yourself? Nope, she was convicted of a hoax, there was no finding of maliciousness and that means that anyone on here not using his or her real name could be similarly charged. In other words, technically you're subject to prosecution in the minds of that jury. What she was convicted of was the misdemeanor of accessing computers without authorization and the only act they could point to in the prosecution was the false identity created. Kind of like the RICO act thingee.. Rico has different requirements and I also suggest that it's been misused over the years to reach folks who would otherwise not be subject to prosecution. They aren't going to prosecute me ... db dbota ... unless its my representation of myself as db is the thing that enable me to commit a crime / deprive someone else of an essential and critically important or more fundamental right. That's the problem, under the legal theory offered, you and even I could very well be even though my name is Arthur Clemons. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Looking for an e-mail client with particular features
Since you already have a direct answer to your question, now I'd like to ask WHY you need (or want?) to do this? It kind of sounds like you're stuck with some ancient way of handling email that can quite likely be done better these days. I mean, we too use email for business, but I can't recall the last time I needed to copy headers from a client. What's the purpose? On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Matthew S. Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pegasus email would do what you want. You can also change the message display options in Thunderbird to show the headers such that they would be copied. Matthew On Dec 4, 2008, at 4:15 PM, Michael S. Altus wrote: I am looking for an e-mail client that that a feature like AOL version 7. As a freelance medical writer-editor, I have individual Word folders for each client. One of the files in these folders is named Correspondence, in which I routinely keep copies of incoming and outgoing e-mails. I have used AOL version 7 for several years because I can copy the visible headers (subject; date; from; to) in incoming and outgoing e-mails. That is, when I have an incoming or outgoing e-mail on the screen, I can select (Ctrl+A) and copy (Ctrl+C) the e-mail, including the visible headers, and paste (Ctrl+V) it into a Word file that, as mentioned, is named Correspondence. If you are unclear about what I mean, look at the e-mails in the www.cguys.org archives. These e-mails are formatted in a way that that the visible headers can be copied along with the text. When AOL version 9 was introduced, I tried it and found that the e-mails were configured differently. The visible headers are in the background, so to speak. When I would select an entire page (Ctrl-A), I would get only the body of the e-mail, not including the visible headers. For this reason, I downgraded to AOL version 7. I find that two e-mail clients, Microsoft Outlook and Mozilla Thunderbird, are configured in the same way as AOL version 9. When I select on the body of an e-mail, I get only the body, not the visible headers. My webhost offers webmail access to the e-mails. I do not care for the format, and I prefer to have an e-mail client on my computer so as to assure that e-mails are downloaded to my computer from the web. Does anyone know of an e-mail client that formats e-mails to enable copying visible headers along with the text? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Looking for an e-mail client with particular features
At 05:10 PM 12/04/2008 -0500, Tony B wrote Since you already have a direct answer to your question, now I'd like to ask WHY you need (or want?) to do this? It kind of sounds like you're stuck with some ancient way of handling email that can quite likely be done better these days. I mean, we too use email for business, but I can't recall the last time I needed to copy headers from a client. What's the purpose? I use Eudora, which has a blah-blah button to expose all the headers in any email. I use headers to track and report spammers most of the time. Sometimes you just want to know who you're getting email from! Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Looking for an e-mail client with particular features
At 04:45 PM 12/04/2008 -0500, Matthew S. Taylor wrote Pegasus email would do what you want. You can also change the message display options in Thunderbird to show the headers such that they would be copied. So will Eudora, which is probably the most versatile of all the email clients. You need to find Ver 7xx, though--not Ver 8--which is really Thunderbird. Far as I know you can still get Ver7xx at http://www.eudora.com/ It's available for both Win and Mac, and there is good online support via an email list http://lists.listmoms.net/lists/ Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Lie Online, Go to Jail
You are inviting a slippery slope here. Look, if we wish to protect children from cyber bullying, then enact sensible, tailored laws to address this. To try to address this on some other unrelated grounds like misrepresentation or violation of the TOS is to dangerously mix apples and oranges. The bullying was the central issue and problem, not the fact that it was done anonymously. People are bulled and teased mercilessly (kids in particular) by those who are not anonymous and this can and does lead to serious repercussions; just ask the Colombine shooters. Where would you draw the line? Suppose someone wanted to sue civilly for misrepresentation on a blind date arranged via the internet? Do you want adults who have sexually suggestive chats with underage teenagers to be traced and arrested, even if (or prior to) engaging in any actual behavior or involvement with the alleged teenager (probably as likely to be an undercover middle age cop)? The answer isn't to try to take misrepresentation and try to stretch it like a big blanket to cover a situation - however reprehensible - which is really at heart a different matter. If people violate TOS agreements they ordinary repercussion should be suspension or removal from a site. If it goes beyond this, to some criminal behavior, this should be handled differently, on its own merits. Otherwise, we could have legal precedents that I suspect few of us would really want to operate under. Randall On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 1:52 PM, db [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but isn't the point that the crime is misrepresenting yourself for the purpose of committing a crime ... not just misrepresenting yourself? Kind of like the RICO act thingee.. They aren't going to prosecute me ... db dbota ... unless its my representation of myself as db is the thing that enable me to commit a crime / deprive someone else of an essential and critically important or more fundamental right. If that woman had used her own identity, the girl would have commented to her mother and the mother would have been able to protect her daughter ... done something to prevent the other mother's harassment. It was the woman's use of a fraudulent identity with the purpose to defraud/ make it impossible for the girl to protect herself from the attack that was the crime. Another element is the degree of affect involved: It is very probable that disguise helped drive the girl to her death. If the affect of the woman's disguise was negligible... there wouldn't have been a prosecution. I think common sense was a factor in this prosecution. We should use it too as a factor in this discussion and not compare apples to oranges. db Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: For a sentence that short in many localities they would be housed locally and you would be surprised at what all those folks are in for. Stewart At 08:57 AM 12/4/2008, you wrote: Some of us are not as tough as you and would find a year in jail to be an unpleasant experience. Imagine how the other inmates would react to your answer to What you in for? Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Looking for an e-mail client with particular features
No, this wouldn't explain why the OP needs to copy headers along with the bodies. I mean, every email client tells him who the email is from, and further, he's saving them in subfolders under that client's name anyway. On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Sue Cubic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Eudora, which has a blah-blah button to expose all the headers in any email. I use headers to track and report spammers most of the time. Sometimes you just want to know who you're getting email from! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Looking for an e-mail client with particular features
I asked: Does anyone know of an e-mail client that formats e-mails to enable copying visible headers along with the text? Matthew Taylor replied: Pegasus email would do what you want. You can also change the message display options in Thunderbird to show the headers such that they would be copied. Matthew, Could you please walk me through the steps in Thunderbird version 2? I am using a Windows XP computer. Thanks, Michael Michael S. Altus, PhD, ELS Intensive Care Communications, Inc.(R) Biomedical Writing and Editing Baltimore MD; [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Lie Online, Go to Jail
I agree with almost everything you say but one of the real problems with our legal system is that common sense is thrown out the window and everything gets decided on legal premise and precedent. Look at a lot of legal rulings and you will see they have nothing to do with Common Sense. Stewart \At 12:52 PM 12/4/2008, you wrote: Yes, but isn't the point that the crime is misrepresenting yourself for the purpose of committing a crime ... not just misrepresenting yourself? Kind of like the RICO act thingee.. They aren't going to prosecute me ... db dbota ... unless its my representation of myself as db is the thing that enable me to commit a crime / deprive someone else of an essential and critically important or more fundamental right. If that woman had used her own identity, the girl would have commented to her mother and the mother would have been able to protect her daughter ... done something to prevent the other mother's harassment. It was the woman's use of a fraudulent identity with the purpose to defraud/ make it impossible for the girl to protect herself from the attack that was the crime. Another element is the degree of affect involved: It is very probable that disguise helped drive the girl to her death. If the affect of the woman's disguise was negligible... there wouldn't have been a prosecution. I think common sense was a factor in this prosecution. We should use it too as a factor in this discussion and not compare apples to oranges. db Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Looking for an e-mail client with particular features
Eudora. Stewart At 03:15 PM 12/4/2008, you wrote: I am looking for an e-mail client that that a feature like AOL version 7. As a freelance medical writer-editor, I have individual Word folders for each client. One of the files in these folders is named Correspondence, in which I routinely keep copies of incoming and outgoing e-mails. I have used AOL version 7 for several years because I can copy the visible headers (subject; date; from; to) in incoming and outgoing e-mails. That is, when I have an incoming or outgoing e-mail on the screen, I can select (Ctrl+A) and copy (Ctrl+C) the e-mail, including the visible headers, and paste (Ctrl+V) it into a Word file that, as mentioned, is named Correspondence. If you are unclear about what I mean, look at the e-mails in the www.cguys.org archives. These e-mails are formatted in a way that that the visible headers can be copied along with the text. When AOL version 9 was introduced, I tried it and found that the e-mails were configured differently. The visible headers are in the background, so to speak. When I would select an entire page (Ctrl-A), I would get only the body of the e-mail, not including the visible headers. For this reason, I downgraded to AOL version 7. I find that two e-mail clients, Microsoft Outlook and Mozilla Thunderbird, are configured in the same way as AOL version 9. When I select on the body of an e-mail, I get only the body, not the visible headers. My webhost offers webmail access to the e-mails. I do not care for the format, and I prefer to have an e-mail client on my computer so as to assure that e-mails are downloaded to my computer from the web. Does anyone know of an e-mail client that formats e-mails to enable copying visible headers along with the text? Thanks, Michael Michael S. Altus, PhD, ELS Intensive Care Communications, Inc.(R) Biomedical Writing and Editing Baltimore MD; [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Looking for an e-mail client with particular featur
Does anyone know of an e-mail client that formats e-mails to enable copying visible headers along with the text? Gmail using show details. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Looking for an e-mail client with particular features
In thunderbird you can do it two ways: 1. Ctl-U (or from the menu view/message source) to see a particular message - that's what I'd recommend. 2. View/Headers/All -- and then as I described earlier you can forward a message inline and copy the information Michael S. Altus wrote: I asked: Does anyone know of an e-mail client that formats e-mails to enable copying visible headers along with the text? Matthew Taylor replied: Pegasus email would do what you want. You can also change the message display options in Thunderbird to show the headers such that they would be copied. Matthew, Could you please walk me through the steps in Thunderbird version 2? I am using a Windows XP computer. Thanks, Michael Michael S. Altus, PhD, ELS Intensive Care Communications, Inc.(R) Biomedical Writing and Editing Baltimore MD; [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Looking for an e-mail client with particular features
Doesn't matter why OP wants to do this. That's his business. When I want to copy the header, I simply choose Edit as New in Thunderbird's Message menu. Then I make whatever changes I want, or keep it as is. Betty No, this wouldn't explain why the OP needs to copy headers along with the bodies. I mean, every email client tells him who the email is from, and further, he's saving them in subfolders under that client's name anyway. On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Sue Cubic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Eudora, which has a blah-blah button to expose all the headers in any email. I use headers to track and report spammers most of the time. Sometimes you just want to know who you're getting email from! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
